Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:54:31 -0500 (EST) From: Darren Henderson <darren@nighttide.net> To: FreeBSD Chat <chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: was this really necessary? [ was Re: The FreeBSD Jive Copyright ] Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.53.0302231737001.45107@olmec> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20030223150804.019c87f0@threespace.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030223123659.01965b20@threespace.com> <00bc01c2d93e$452d1f60$0502000a@sentinel> <4.3.2.7.2.20030221181620.01b7ded8@threespace.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030223123659.01965b20@threespace.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20030223150804.019c87f0@threespace.com>
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Chip Morton wrote:
> This is not true. "Jive" was originally a form of swing-out style dancing
> that originated around the turn of the century and became immensely popular
In the context of the filter in questions it was a 70's and early 80's
fashion. I am aware of the origins of the word "jive" in the historical
context of jazz - it doesn't apply to this situation.
> The re-emergence of the term in the 70's in many black sitcoms (e.g., "Good
> Times" and "The Jeffersons") only helped to solidify that association. But
> the term existed long before hippies and beatniks to be sure.
The term but not the dialect - and that was the issue I was addressing.
Words usually have differning meanings over time and distance - this is
paticularly true of english. The implied assertion that use of a dialect
implies deeper and darker intentions. The use of "jive" as dialect is no
more inherently offensive then is the use of a Maine brogue, a Georgia
drawl, or a Cockney rhyme. Context and intent mean everyting.
I personally find it frightening that such inherently chilling beliefs may
be more widely held.
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