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Date:      Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:26:42 -0700
From:      Edu Carneiro <mustaxe@gmail.com>
To:        Murray Stokely <murray@stokely.org>
Cc:        doc@freebsd.org, Colin Percival <cperciva@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Backup Basics
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Thanks for the comments and I agree that there should be a mention of all
available backup methods such as cloud services; however, as far as giving
sponsorship to selected services then that's a business decision.
But such services only apply to certain people. In my case, I'm not using
RAID and am going to implement a backup to an external storage and according
to the docs, the suggestion is the dump/tar combo. It's still a valid method
but since the reference is from almost 20 years ago, I was checking if there
were any updated suggestions/ports. Or even to know what FreeBSD uses
internally.

Regards,
Edu

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Murray Stokely <murray@stokely.org> wrote:

> A fair point, and in that case perhaps a short paragraph introducing
> the reader to the class of cloud based online backup systems as a
> viable alternative to tape backup solutions in 2009, rather than
> listing any specific services.  A final sentence could then invite the
> reader to peruse google or the commercial vendors page for specific
> services.
>
>              - Murray
>
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Colin Percival<cperciva@freebsd.org>
> wrote:
> > Murray Stokely wrote:
> >> I'd really like to see a new section here about commercial cloud based
> >> backup offerings, including TarSnap as the most FreeBSD-friendly
> >> variety, but also including some of the other services built on AWS or
> >> other cloud services that can be used with FreeBSD.
> >
> > Thanks for the plug. :-)
> >
> > There are a couple of companies listed under
> http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/
> > as providing backup services (www.ahsay.com, www.exavault.com) but I
> don't see
> > anything special about them aside from the fact that they presumably
> submitted
> > PRs asking to be added -- to be honest, I'm not entirely certain why
> there is a
> > "Commercial Vendors" page on the FreeBSD website at all when google does
> a much
> > better job of finding vendors.
> >
> > While I'm always eager to have more people hear about tarsnap, I think
> putting
> > any sort of list of vendors into the handbook would just end up as a huge
> mess
> > unless there's a very clear policy about which companies get listed --
> and I
> > really can't imagine how to draw up such a policy.
> >
> > --
> > Colin Percival
> > Security Officer, FreeBSD | freebsd.org | The power to serve
> > Founder / author, Tarsnap | tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly
> paranoid
> >
>



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