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Date:      Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:45:13 -0400
From:      Jung-uk Kim <jkim@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Herbert J. Skuhra" <herbert@mailbox.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: UTF-8 by default?
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From: Jung-uk Kim <jkim@FreeBSD.org>
To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" <herbert@mailbox.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
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Subject: Re: UTF-8 by default?
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On 07/20/16 04:36 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote:
> Baptiste Daroussin skrev:
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:47:45AM -0230, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
>>> On 20 Jul 2016, at 9:13, Tim =C8as wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, without further ado:
>>>> 1) What are the reasons that UTF-8 isn't the default yet?
>>>> 2) Would it be possible to make this the default in 11.0? What about=

>>>> 12.0?
>>>> 3) Assuming an effort is started towards making UTF-8 the default,
>>>> what changes would be required?
>>>
>>> At least according to one of my students (who makes more extensive us=
e of
>>> i18n than I do), enabling UTF-8 by default is pretty straightforward:=

>>>
>>> https://github.com/musec/freebsd/wiki/Common-setup#utf-8-support
>>
>> the LC_COLLATE=3DC is not needed anymore with freebsd 11+
>=20
> Weird, when I set LC_ALL or LC_COLLATE to nb_NO.UTF-8 I can no longer
> run ls in $HOME. It hangs until I kill it. Same happens with
> da_DK.UTF-8; no problem with sv_SE.UTF-8 or en_GB.UTF-8.
>=20
> I am running FreeBSD 11.0-BETA1 i386 (r302984) and I think someone
> else reported a similiar issue earlier.

FYI, this bug was introduced in r302324, which is between ALPHA6 and
BETA1.  It should be fixed in r302916 (head) and r303112 (stable/11).

Jung-uk Kim


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