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Date:      Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:40:38 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu>
Cc:        FreeBSD Hackers List <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: what is devfs? 
Message-ID:  <199909212040.OAA27457@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:00:09 PDT." <19990921000009.54622@hydrogen.fircrest.net> 
References:  <19990921000009.54622@hydrogen.fircrest.net>  <19990920231629.26284@hydrogen.fircrest.net> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9909202321540.22714-100000@home.elischer.org> 

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Devices must failsafe from a security point of view in the absense of
a devfsd.  Otherwise there will extreme opposition from the security
officer.  This means 0600 or more restrictive permissions.  While it
doesn't happen often, it must be designed for.  Otherwise you've
replaced a secure, predictible system with an insecure one, which is
not acceptible at all in the base FreeBSD product.

How permissions are saved, devices are given out for use I don't care
too much about so long as it is secure.

In general, it is very hard to secure a system where things aren't
predictable.

Warner



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