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Date:      Wed, 29 May 2002 12:18:33 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Wouter Van Hemel <wouter@pair.com>
Cc:        Bob Van Valzah <Bob@BGPBook.Com>, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>, Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@stud.uni-dortmund.de>, freebsd-doc <doc@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Minor 'historic' flaw in FreeBSD article "Bootstrapping Vinum"
Message-ID:  <20020529121833.A82424@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <1022636075.28350.49.camel@cocaine>
References:  <20020528222333.K25512-100000@hades> <1022625361.32852.18.camel@NewStorm.WhiteBarn.Com> <1022636075.28350.49.camel@cocaine>

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On Wednesday, 29 May 2002 at  3:34:35 +0200, Wouter Van Hemel wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 00:35, Bob Van Valzah wrote:
>> The section in question is paraphrased from an E-mail message Greg sent
>> me.  I wouldn't know accusative form from ablative form, so I'll leave
>> Greg and Matthias to work that one out.
>>
>
> It's either nominative or accusative. Ablative would be 'vino', as in 'in
> vino veritas', since the location is static, i.e. it's not about the
> motion but the position.
>
> What is your real question, if it involves latin, maybe I can help
> out...

It was below:

>>>> --- /tmp/article.sgml.orig	Tue May 28 00:51:20 2002
>>>> +++ /tmp/article.sgml	Tue May 28 00:52:04 2002
>>>> @@ -287,9 +287,9 @@
>>>>        <para>&vinum.ap; was inspired by the Veritas Volume Manager, but
>>>>  	was not derived from it.
>>>>  	The name is a play on that history and the Latin adage
>>>> -	<foreignphrase>In Vino Veritas</foreignphrase>
>>>> -	(<foreignphrase>Vino</foreignphrase> is the accusative form of
>>>> -	<foreignphrase>Vinum</foreignphrase>).
>>>> +	<foreignphrase>in vino veritas</foreignphrase>
>>>> +	(<foreignphrase>vino</foreignphrase> is the ablative form of
>>>> +	<foreignphrase>vinum</foreignphrase>).
>>>>  	Literally translated, that is <quote>Truth lies in wine</quote> hinting that
>>>>  	drunkards have a hard time lying.
>>>>  	</para>

The question has been answered, unless a new one remains:  "Where did
the word \"accusative\" come from?".

Greg
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