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Date:      Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:30:00 -0800 (PST)
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@ref.tfs.com>
To:        mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray)
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.org, mark@grunt.grondar.za
Subject:   Re: SUP must die, CTM for president !!
Message-ID:  <199502011830.KAA21040@ref.tfs.com>
In-Reply-To: <199502011320.PAA06824@grunt.grondar.za> from "Mark Murray" at Feb 1, 95 03:20:54 pm

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> > OK, I just had a chat with Jordan over a piece of cake (it's true !)
> 
> Sigh. This dispells the myth that jkh is a perl script... ;-)

No, they say "learning Perl is a piece of cake"...

> > >>> I belive that sup needs to die for all "src-current" use  <<<
> 
> Yeah! SUP's take a couple of hours round here, often for very little...
> 
> > We set up a machine, (thud probably) to run a shell script X times per day
> > (X in [1..4]) which does a "make cleandist ; make obj ; make all" and if
> > that succeeds it produces a CTM delta, which gets put in the public
> > area on ftp.freebsd.org automatically and emailed to the ctm-src-cur 
> > mailing list at the same time.
> 
> Will these be proper diffs, or will SUPPpers (new-style) also have all the
> old deleted crud hanging around too?
The present CTM-deltas are not the kind of "patches" you are used to.
The consist of a MD5 sum before, a ed-like script (diff -n) and a MD5
after, and it will bail out if your file hasn't got the right MD5 checksum.

It is a distribution tool, not a patch tool.

You can try it out now, check 
	ftp://ref.tfs.com/pub/CTM/README

> You've got my vote...

Thanks.

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@login.dknet.dk>
TRW Financial Systems, Inc.
FreeBSD has, until now, not one single time had an undetected error. :-)



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