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Date:      Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:57:28 -0700
From:      Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>
To:        Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
Cc:        FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: mouse problems....
Message-ID:  <20101011215728.GA5656@thought.org>
In-Reply-To: <20101011231320.743975fc.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:13:20PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:56:10 -0700, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> > 	i tried this remove on _this_ console; then buttoned over to 
> > 	`ethic' [server], killed the moused that was running.  Indeed it
> > 	was /dev/ums0!  But the mouse was frozen, and afer I killed it, 
> > 	gone. 
> 
> It seems that disconnect / reconnect (performed by the KVM switch)
> causes some problems.
> 
> 
> 
> > Then I tried your line and got the data stream.  But 
> > 	there was no mouse.  ... 
> 
> But if you moved the mouse, status messages appeared? Remove the
> -d option and try
> 
> 	# moused -f -p /dev/ums0 -t auto
> 
> Now a mouse cursor should be present in text mode.
> 
> 
> 
> > 	There are two buttons and the mouse "wheel";  I have no clue what's
> > 	next. 
> 
> I'm using such mice (with wheel) since FreeBSD 5.0, so there should
> be sufficient support if the mouse it not "broken by design".
> 
> 
> 
> > Clearly, my 7.2.X sees the mouse.  But when I typed simply 
> > 
> > 	# startx
> > 
> > 	the windows are there; the mouse cursor hangs, dead-center.
> 
> If you've tried the moused example above - and it WORKS, remove
> the -f option.
> 
> 	# moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto
> 
> It should then become a daemon. Right after that, run
> 
> 	# startx
> 
> and X should use the mouse access provided by moused - unless, of
> course, there's HAL and DBUS trouble ahead.
> 
> 
> 
> > 	Dunno; I do have hal and dbus there; that's about all I
> > 	can say.  Do I check with ps -ax | egrep "hal|dbus"?
> 
> If it was THAT obvious... :-)
> 
> Check
> 
> 	# grep "hal" /etc/rc.conf
> 	# grep "dbus" /etc/rc.conf
> 
> to see if they are enabled. You should also have hal-x.y.z and
> dbus-x.y.z packages installed. If you installed X from package or used
> the port with default options, it relies on their presence. That's
> nothing bad per se, especially if you're using KDE, Gnome or Xfce,
> those seem to run better with HAL and DBUS, especially all the
> autodetection and automount stuff. If you intendedly do NOT want
> to use that, you can code AAD in your xorg.conf (you need to have
> one for that).
> 
> There's a section in the handbook covering that topic:
> 
> 	5.4 X11 Configuration
> 	http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html
> 
> Especially see 5.4.2. Also don't miss
> 
> 	http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html
> 
> And maybe
> 
> 	http://www.kite.ping.de/xorg-hal-migration.html
> 
> This should give sufficient information to find out what is the best
> solution for your setting.
> 


	I thank you sincerely.  I will try one last thing before I
	abandon my post: namely, to try a hard reset of the KVM switch. 
	If nothing, then it is over my head.  I'll vheck the site
	mentioned, who knows?

	gary

	PS: to the list: if this has happened to anyone else onlist, i
	would like to hear about it.  I bought a Belkin circa '05 and
	it worked flalessly gor years ... until something burned out!




> 
> 
> -- 
> Polytropon
> Magdeburg, Germany
> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...

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