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Date:      Tue, 2 May 2000 06:23:35 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Pat Lynch <lynch@bsdunix.net>
To:        "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" <insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD and IRC
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.05.10005020622510.2816-100000@bytor.rush.net>
In-Reply-To: <20000501232201.B79190@lunatic.oneinsane.net>

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these are precisely the reasons I left #freebsd months ago.

too much ego, not enough advocacy.

-Pat

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Pat Lynch						lynch@rush.net
							lynch@bsdunix.net
							lynch@unix.sh
							lynch@blowfi.sh
Systems Administrator					Rush Networking

On Mon, 1 May 2000, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote:

> On Mon, 01 May 2000, Jeremiah Gowdy was heard blurting out:
> 
> > > I happen to share an office at work with the guy who got flamed and
> > > then kick banned on #FreeBSD.
> > >
> > > Yet another reason why I don't go to #FreeBSD any more.  Its often
> > > times distressing how people can instantly turn against you there.
> > >
> > > :(
> > 
> > Once again, let me spell it out for you guys.  #freebsdhelp
> > Did you get that number ?  Lemme share it again.  #freebsdhelp.  Just
> > because people are in a freebsd chat channel does not mean they should have
> > to endure massive amounts of repetitive questions.  That's why there's a
> > help channel.  Get a clue or stop complaining.  There's also
> > www.defcon1.org, www.freebsd-howto.org, and www.freebsd.org/handbook
> > There's plenty of help out there without abusing the knowlegable people on
> > IRC, who want to come on IRC and talk to other knowlegable people without
> > being plagued by beginners.  Those who CHOOSE to share their knowlege and
> > information with people are in #freebsdhelp.
> 
> Let me spell it out to you. I have nothing against #freebsdhelp or
> anyone for that matter on #freebsd. The issue I was trying to make is
> that it is a public forum and that by it being that can tur a newbie off
> quicker than anything.
> 
> Shoot look in at this thread that I started, some people have answered
> politely and civil where others haven't. For christ sakes this will be
> in the search database and probably propagated to other search engines.
> 
> I guess what I am getting it is there is a civil way and the wrong way.
> I want people to come to FreeBSD from those other OS's but not be turned
> away because someone wants to be a smart ass to someone who was
> misinformed or just plain new.
> 
> Now back to #FreeBSD I go  ;-)
> -- 
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> The InSaNe One                 			      rm -rf *
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