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Date:      Wed, 23 Dec 1998 01:04:36 -0500
From:      Drew Baxter <netmonger@genesis.ispace.com>
To:        Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG, David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
Subject:   Re: This just in: Microsoft/Sears Merger
Message-ID:  <4.1.19981223005658.00b44ee0@genesis.ispace.com>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.981223065928.asmodai@wxs.nl>
References:  <4.1.19981222232943.00c1f800@genesis.ispace.com>

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At 06:59 AM 12/23/98 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
>
>*sigh* This world is doomed =)
> 

Nah, it's just we're technologically inept :)  Even though I have been
doing the computer thing for 14 years.

>
>Well just to add the usual it-doesn't-matter 0.02 cents: at the place where I
>work, I am one of the three network specialists and then there's this guy 
>whom we
>contract. This guy, some of core knows him and he knows every major other guru
>out there in the UNIX world (I am still amazed over that), is the kind of guy
>that never tires to explain, but boy does he know a lot about UNIX and IP. I 
>have
>seen him outwit/outsmart every single NT administrator we have at our job 
>(we are
>the Novell dudes, so... ;). So ye see, it's all about the knowledge 
>actually, and
>I have seen by now, that most courses concerning MCSE and MCNE don't really 
>hold
>their feet in the ground against guys like him (sure there are always 
>exceptions).
>
>side-note: Novell and FreeBSD works great next to each other =)

I didn't say I agree with the MCSE programs and the CNE/CNA Novell
programs.  I could have gone for my MCSE a while ago, I just don't see the
point in paying a few grand (I think something to the tune of 5 grand) to
take certification on something that isn't going to directly affect where I
am.  I've worked at the school for 3 years so far, and just finally now I'm
actually going to see pay from it.  If they pay me 18,500$ a year, then I'm
happy in that position.. Then I can always migrate toward Mass, and work
toward the 45-65K/yr for a 'UNIX Geek'.  Consider where I work now a
'proving ground'.

Surprisingly my 250 user copy of Intranetware (of which was a lovely 1000
dollars from Novell) came with a CD for Unix services.  All in all Novell
is an interesting NOS, the problem I see is, it can be rather complex.
Perhaps that's why people go to NT, anyone can point and click, and a basic
network admin can develop a small business network with ease.  My Netware
Experience was so-so, I found running Samba a little more realistic for the
cause really, the cause being file sharing.

I'd be interested to hear why you chose to be a Novell guy instead of
something else though.  


---
Drew "Droobie" Baxter
Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM)
OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange, Bangor Maine USA
http://www.droo.orland.me.us

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