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Date:      Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:42:02 -0700 (PDT)
From:      patl@phoenix.volant.org
To:        ac199@hwcn.org
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: My verdict on 2.2.7...
Message-ID:  <ML-3.3.901305722.9874.patl@asimov>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980724141002.13066A-100000@localhost>

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> > So you just threw the former download away?  Unless the call was free,
> > downloading probably cost more than the CD would have.  And there are
> 
> Uh, I don't know where you live, but around here, there wouldn't
> be any comparison at all.  I could probably make the call
> long-distance and it would still be cheaper to download it.  And
> that's not even taking the exchange rate into account, which is
> absolutely murder now-a-days.

Ok, let's take long distance.  Long distance carriers are currently
touting their 'ten cents a minute' plans.  So a 20 hour download 
would cost $120.  Local rates for a business line run around five
cents a minute, which would cut it to $60.  Local residential rates
are a bit more complex; but could drop it under the CD price.  (Going
to a 4 CD set kicked the price up enough to make the equation more
reasonable.)

If you are doing an FTP install, there is also the risk that there
will be some problem that will require starting over; which raises
the time and total communications charges.


> Not to discourage anyone from buying the CD (esp. when all
> profits go to FreeBSD.ORG! :), but I personally hold no grudges
> against someone who forgoes buying every new CD and downloads it
> instead.

Nor do I.  In fact, I've downloaded a few releases myself.

I was attempting to point out that with a slow line, it may actually
be more economical to buy the CD.  And you get the various other
advantages of having a relatively fast, non- volatile, read-only
distribution which includes distfiles for most of the ports, a live
filesystem, etc.

And if your time is valuable, you need to figure that into the
equation.  I.e., Exactly how much of your personal time would
the CD need to save to pay for itself.  (Or for the additional
cost over a download.)

One more factor on CD-vs-download.  When a CD-release is being
prepaired, it is fairly likely that the initial release made
available for FTP will need to be re-rolled at least once before
the final CD master is cut.  What happens if the re-rolled version
replaces the previous one while you are in the middle of a download
install?  (Usually, not much.  But the potential is there...)


>           Heck, even MS provides some of its upgrades (aka.
> bugfixes) for free download.

Unless they've changed in the last year or so, that's only for patches.
You can't download an entire upgrade release of the OS.  To get the
intermediate releases which correspond to FreeBSD's FTP-able releases,
you must join the MSDN, which is a bit pricey for a personal budget...



-Pat



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