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Date:      Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:37:16 +0100
From:      Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
To:        swjatoslaw gerus <milstar2@eml.cc>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: more etc/wpa* and rtc.conf-1
Message-ID:  <20170110223716.80190211.freebsd@edvax.de>
In-Reply-To: <1484078051.3677995.843490777.394E882F@webmail.messagingengine.com>
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:54:11 +0100, swjatoslaw gerus wrote:
>   Discussion  is ended   .Author have not any demand for freebsd and
>   solaris 

They are not officially supported by those who run the WLAN
you want to connect to. If you are not able to configure a
real UNIX system to properly connect (which is possible),
you need to stick with what they want you to use and give
up your individual choice on that topic. It's up to you
to do so, nobody forces you to use software that you don't
like - except when you start working, then you have to do
whatever your boss tells you to do. ;-)



>   They are  both not adressed  mobile communication 16 hours per day 

Nonsense. I actually have two (!) laptops which are online
via WLAN 24 hours per day. Claim falsified.



>    They both have not  dedicated command for Wireless Communication 
>    as iwconfig ,only subset  in ifconfig   

Because it is not needed to stuff everything into one
monolithic command. That is the basis of FreeBSD as a
versatile (!) operating system.



>  They both adressed sysadmin with 100 users SAP ,Oracle ,100 TB ,which
>  used wlan  3%  

Nonsense.

Guess what? I made an experiment today. I borrowed my neighbor's
son. He's 15 years old and uses Linux for about a year now. I gave
him the access data for my WLAN and a FreeBSD laptop (installed
from scratch), and I opened my web browser with the relevant
FreeBSD handbook pages. After a few minor questions, he was
able to get connected in less than 30 minutes! What did he de?
Basically what the handbook said, plus a few advices and
from my side (like hints that "ee" is the default editor,
or that manpages can be checked without online connection).

I don't want to make any implication or insult with this
statement. It just falsifies your claim and provides a
refreshing counterpart to today's common "click & grunt"
dumbphone generation. ;-)



> And not planned  to have  any understanding  of both  -Solaris and
> Freebsd 

Allow me to answer by quoting Andrew Carnegie:

	He that cannot reason is a fool.
	He that will not is a bigot.
	He that dare not is a slave.

I may add that a fundamental understanding of the working
of modern day technology (such as wireless networks and
computers, their software, and how to use them) should not
be foreign to anyone attending university. I hope that does
not reflect your general mindset regarding science, research,
learning and understanding. ;-)



> No any relation to software industry 

You have, if you want or not. Software defines our lives. And
your urge to be on WLAN for 18 hours per day proves you wrong.

Richard Feynman: "What I cannot create, I do not understand."

And what you don't understand will finally control you.



Good luck.






-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...



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