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Date:      Fri, 16 Mar 2001 07:10:40 -0800
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To:        Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>
Cc:        Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: NO MORE '-BETA'
Message-ID:  <20010316071040.V29888@fw.wintelcom.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.32.0103160844480.16706-100000@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us>; from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 08:49:41AM -0600
References:  <20010315201500.A2484@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <Pine.BSF.4.32.0103160844480.16706-100000@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us>

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* Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us> [010316 06:50] wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Steve Kargl wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 07:40:29PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > > Hmm.  I've yet to get *any* mail about BETA scaring people, and we've
> > > been doing them for literally years at this point.  I suspect you're
> > > overreacting somewhat to Saverio Perugini's recent mail in -stable,
> > > but I'll nonetheless entertain any suggestions on what I could call
> > > the "pre-RC" releases without confusing them with snapshots, which
> > > occur every day anyway, or the actual release.
> > >
> >
> > Drop by the newsgroup.  There was a thread last week about someone
> > using cvsup expecting to get 4.2-stable and he got 4.3-beta.  He
> > was annoyed and confused because he thought beta meant "beta
> > quality" (as in inferior software).
> 
> I've heard that quite often on IRC as well.  Sometimes to fix a
> problem I tell someone to upgrade to -STABLE, which happens to be
> 4.3-BETA at this time.  I get the usual "BETA!?!?" response, whereby I
> have to explain that FreeBSD's "BETA" is nothing like, say,
> Microsoft's "BETA".  I don't think its a big problem, just that it
> might discourage a few more freebsd-newbie users from using it than it
> would if it weren't called "BETA".

Ok, so we have reports of confusion on the mailing lists, usenet and
IRC.  Jordan, where can I pick up a set those blinders you have on?

-- 
-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]


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