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Date:      Sun, 18 Aug 2002 03:33:10 -0700
From:      "Alfred Pythonstein" <pythonstein@hotmail.com>
To:        hackers@freebsd.org
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   The #bsdcode hall of shame
Message-ID:  <F126V11V061w4RAENA900014630@hotmail.com>

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The #bsdcode hall of shame, starring:

	Paul 'moron' Saab
	Bill 'flamage' Fumerola
	Juli 'lezbo' Mallet
	Alfred 'drunktard' Perlstein

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| TERRENCE LAMBERT|
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<@EvilJuli> LAMENESS= Terry
* angryskul notes that he would like to put his penis inside Terry's ass.
<@phk> we should give terry a mail-quota of two emails per patch he submits.
<@jkh> there are worse behaviors than Terry's doing a fine job of eroding 
morale. :)
<@baka^ni> Oh, fuck Terry.
<@EvilJuli> <terry> Tunefs can do it.
<@mux> Screw that Terry asshole!
<@ps> terry sucks
<@ps> T TERRY.. PLZ READ CODE BEFORE TYPING EMAIL
<@skul> WE'LL FIX TERRY
<@skul> the annoying part about terry is that he never qualifies anything 
with "i think"
<@skul> <terry> ....
<@skul> <terry> ....
<@skul> <terry> ....
<@skul> <terry> ....
<@skul> when terry is wrong he just migrates to another thread
< cmc> skul: is there any proof that Terry even uses FreeBSD now?
<@skul> i need to thrash terry with it
* skul crushes terry
* skul crushes terry
* jmallett sits in the box and talks to dillon and terry about the wonders 
of the world
<@mux> terry!
<@jmallett> perry and terry for core!
<@mux> terry and perry the blues brothers
<@hideaway> <Terry> screw that, I'll tell you how it's done.  [but i won't 
do it!]
<@jmallett> <Terry> But I did it at Netware, honest!
<@hideaway> <Terry> But I implemented it.
<@BigKnife> Fuck terry
<@green_> Screw terry
<@BigKnife> someone please fuck terry in the ass
<@arr> By the amount of FreeBSD list mail terry sends, one would think he's 
one of the most active developers
<@nik__> Heh.  Terry, Charles, Theo, and JKH, all on the same core team.
* dwhite- bends pattom over and inserts terry
< pattom> oddly, I offered to paypal terry some money in gratitude for all 
his help and he just ignored
me - but continued to dispense free ( advice + (we should write a tuning 
manual but wait no we shouldnt because it is a 2000 hour job and outdated 
very month)
<@nik__> pattom: Problem with Terry's advice is that (in my experience) 90% 
of it is bullshit.
But if you don't know what he's talking about it can be very tricky to work 
out which 90%.
<@softweyr> bsdimp: and PHK won't utter/type Terry's name.
<@softweyr> ssh root@election.uk.freebsd.org "cd /home; echo 'Terry * 
9'>*/.vote"
<@green_> so we have phk, theo and terry on mock-core
<@green_> go terry!
<@ps> we need to kick terry off the lists.
<@ps> TERRY GO AWAY
<@phk> EvilPete: listen to ps.  Kicking terry out for trolling and wasting 
time
while never contributing would be a good first move.
<@ps> tell terry to go the fuck away.. his opinions are not welcome
<@cmc> Watch out for his "Flamerola" alter-ego.  "Leave Terry alone!" :)
<@bsdimp_> WE can barely ban the clueless, what about someone like terry.
<@phk> bsdimp_: of banning terry ?  I think just the act of officially 
banning him plus an entry in the FAQ would do a lot.
< vd-> whois Terry :) ?
< vd-> cmc: looks like Terry - warrior :)
<@ps> terry needs to go away
<@Debolaz> vd-: Terry is this channels favourite way of getting out steam.
<@EvilPete> phk: well, there are more offenders than terry...  Maybe a good 
start
would be "for each post of crap that you make, you get a 24 hour ban".
< hearnia> ps: no, freebsd's committers need to learn how to deal with 
people like terry
< vd-> you don't like terry
< vd-> but terry commiter@
< hearnia> evilpete: when someone bumps up against terry, it's usually a 
committer
< hearnia> ps: but terry doesn't just say crap
<@ps> because TERRY IS WRONG
<@ps> 99% of the time, terry is wrong
<@winter> but having a FAQ entry about Terry would help.
<@Debolaz> ps: I recall a statement from this channel that Terry was only 
wrong
90% of the time, but the problem was figuring out what that 90% was.
* EvilPete . o O (Terry: you may post only 5 times a day to the lists.  Make 
them count.  Think before you post.  Research and verify what you are 
claiming. etc)
<@ps> "Terry Jar Jar Lambert"
<@winter> submit all of terry's messages to Razor.
<@winter> eventually we'll train Razor to reject Terry's messages.
* EvilPete . o (Terry: pick somebody [other than julian] to review every one 
of
your postings before sending it]
< vd-> interesting man Terry ...
< vd-> few minutes ago I tried to read some threads with Terry's replies
<@EvilPete> "WARNING: you have recieved a terry lambert posting! see FAQ on 
trolls!"
<@phk> EvilPete: better yet:  Delay all terrys emails to the list for 12 
hours.
* phk points at Terry
< DevRandom> Naah. Terry is a n easy target.
<@adrian> damn, terry posts a lot to the various lists
<@Holocaine> adrian: Terry appears to feel the need to respond to every 
single thing  that could possibly be interpreted as a question about FreeBSD 
architecture, even when he has no idea what that actually is.
<@Holocaine> adrian: Terry and Dennis-from-ETinc being prime candidates.
<@adrian> terry keeps popping up with .. everything else.
<@juli> I'm being a Terry that's willing to write code!
<@adrian> fuck terry, he posts a lot.
<@juli> I just like playing the part of Terry.
<@EvilPete> juli: we have more than enough Terry to go around
<@juli> * Terry decides to troll^W^H be helpful on the BoskOS lists, too
< jhicks> lnb: was it Terry Lambert by any chance?
< jhicks> lnb: Terry prolly told them that and stuff
<@juli> -- Terry
<@juli> someone is keeping a fortunes.terry, rgiht?
* scottl feeds the Terry troll }8-)
-!- juli changed the topic of #bsdcode to: hey look, something filesystem 
related, must have to do with ufs2, even though ufs2 didn't touch it! 
--terry
<@phk> juli: we all know Terry is a jerk, but John is DEAD
<@juli> "II a. Terry-Bashing"
< pattom> and then I saw the vn-related trace, and then terry lambert said 
he thought I could induce it by doing a bunch of `finds` throughout the 
different vn-backed FSs
<@bmilekic> In particular, Terry wrote the SYSINIT stuff
<@ps> T NEW CORE .. TELL TERRY TO GO AWAY
<@ps> BAN TERRY AND BRETT
<@ps> maybe terry will die of a heart attack
<@bright> Terry, Julian, Archie, ummm...
<@ps> "Someone is hacking my windows machine when I am on Yahoo! Chat." -- 
Terry
<@ps> "Who are you stalking online Terry?" -- ps response to terry
<@EvilDES> hsu: "hey Terry, please rewrite major parts of Bugzilla from 
scratch"
<@motminh> skul says:  By replying to Terry you are proxying his messages 
into my mailbox.
<@bright> the problem with terry is that he's "white noise", he's really 
smart,
a great guy, but he just discourages me quite a bit
<@rwatson> Except terry, and that isn't a big issue.
<@EvilMux> heh, I can deal with Terry quite efficiently :-)
<@baka^ni> "Hi! I see you are trying to reply to Terry!"
< scottl_> 'Score -1000000: Terry'
<@eric^> i thought qnx would be a little more concerned with the legal 
issues...
or maybe i take terry too seriously
* baka-san replies to a Terry message in a thread saying "You thought I read 
this thread, but really I didn't"
< green_> rwatson: heh, I misread that terryfs

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|BRETT GLASS|
-----------

< jmallett> jkh: and fuck Brett Glass.
<@hideaway> brett glass!
<@hideaway> brettglass4core!
<@hideaway> <Brett Glass> I wrote this paper on my website on how core 
should be.
<@jmallett> <Brett Glass> in 1995
<@mij> damn, where's brett glass and rob malda in the list?
<@bms> brett ass -> killfile
<@bms> oh man, brett ass has gotten worse
<@hearnia> brett motherfucker glass
<@juli> brett glass couldn't
<@hearnia> as would a high speed collision between brett glass and theo
<@hearnia> i'm going to create a pgp key with the comment "Sign this if you 
want
Brett Glass off freebsd-security"
< hearnia> i think we should all start sending brett glass mail every time 
we le
ave our desks to take a dump
<@bmilekic> "user is Brett Glass, off with his head"
<@EvilPete> uplift: go easy on him, I send all my jmonroy/brettglass email 
to /d
ev/null, that's gotta hurt :-)
<@bright> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
<@bright> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
<@bright> * ^From:.*brett@lariat.org
<@b0sk0> I'd rather take shit from Theo than take shit from Brett Glass (by 
the
way).
<@anordby> "Because I program professionally, I don't read GPLed code due to 
lic
ense concerns." -- Brett Glass
* anordby see Brett doing Microsoftish judgements.
<@ashp> Brett is an odd guy in person too.
<@eric^> he's supposed to be written brettcc
<@juli> Solution: unsubscribe brett glass.
* bmilekic doesn't really care to see what Brett Glass wrote, really, or 
where he has a copyright
<@Studded> brett is such a loser when he tries to talk security
< flynn> Brett Glass Security, Inc
<@billf> today we learn from brett glass that sendmail links with libbind
<@gehicks> like brett
< flynn> "You are aware, Brett, that you are lecturing one of the BIND 
authors on
< hearnia> corecode: shall i label one for you and one for brett glass?
< szomb> yeah, so, I was recently informed that Brett Glass's commentary 
makes
reading the ``boring shit'' on -security ``more fun''
<@juli> -security > -chat > brett glass < *
< szomb> man, i sure wouldn't want Brett Glass in charge of securing my 
boxes
< hearnia> brett
<@bright> * ^From:.*brett@lariat.org
<@ps> BAN TERRY AND BRETT
<@bright> Cc: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, odela01@ca.com,
<@bright> Please don't CC me in replies to Brett, I have no idea why he 
chose
< hearnia> with mutt, /Brett Glass\r^d works quite nicely
<@kkenn> oh how I wish mutt had a way to automatically delete subthreads 
initiated by brett glass
< cmc> kkenn: Much in the same way that you can use procmail/formail to 
remove
duplicate messages based on a list of msgids in your mailbox, I'm sure you 
could record a list of Brett Glass msgids and kill anything with those in 
"References".
< DevRandom> kkenn: i kill all mail (to|cc|from): Brett Glass. Life is so 
much better!
<@EvilDES> kkenn: I killfile anything that from, to or cc:ed to brett
< bms> Brett Ass
< scottl_> ha! /. has a poll that mentions Brett Glass
<@softweyr> everyone go vote for the plastinated Brett Glass at /.
<@bms> remind me to killfile Brett Ass, I keep forgetting
< EvilCait> tjr: do that at the brett glass lecture :)
< cv> no throw bricks at the brett glass lecture
< EvilCait> cv: ever meet brett in real life?
<@EvilCait> that's almost brett glass height



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