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Date:      16 Apr 2003 11:28:49 +0100
From:      Richard Caley <rjc@caley.org.uk>
To:        Marko Zec <zec@tel.fer.hr>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: PATCH: Forcible delaying of UFS (soft)updates
Message-ID:  <87smsiohwe.fsf@pele.r.caley.org.uk>
In-Reply-To: <3E9840B8.F00E018F@tel.fer.hr>
References:  <200304121438.h3CEct41030991@lurza.secnetix.de> <3E9840B8.F00E018F@tel.fer.hr>

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In article <3E9840B8.F00E018F@tel.fer.hr>, Marko Zec (mz) writes:


mz> I agree that additional tunable for controlling fsync() behavior couldn't hurt,
mz> however as explained in previous note I see the fsync() as the most common
mz> initiator of disk spinnups, so a method for suppressing it must be made
mz> available, otherwise the whole patch wouldn't make much sense...

Would it make sense to make the fsync behaviour a per-process choice?
That way certain system processes could, if this delay behaviour is
enabled, use the null fsync. For instance, if syslog is one of the
things causing annoying spin-ups, then the user could tell syslog not
to really fsync, trading forensic information in the event of a crash
for battery life. 

Additionally there could be a really_really_fysnc call to be used to
make certain programs delay-aware. Eg, it might be acceptable for my
emacs checkpointing not to fsync, again I'm trading losing a little
more work in the event of a crash for battery life, but when I
explicitly save, I am saying I want that stuff on disk and stable NOW,
and damn battery.

-- 
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