Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:48:16 -0800 From: Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au> To: "Oben O. Candemir" <dunya@one.net.au> Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: Sore Support Message-ID: <199902071948.LAA06918@dingo.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:50:13 %2B1100." <Pine.BSF.4.05.9902071136250.248-100000@fireball.2000.com.au>
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We carefully note that you are doing a great deal of complaining, but no actual work. Would you care to align youself with the problem, or the solution? We'll gladly accept any real effort you care to expend on the Project, but if call you can do is whine about how someone else isn't doing what you personally think they should, then you really should just go and get lost. Yes, we need more help. Yes, we know this. No, you're not providing any. Please recitfy the situation. > On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > > On 01-Feb-99 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > People have been talking about this kind of thing for ages. > > > What we lack is someone to actually DO THE WORK. :) > > > > I guess). It would make it easier on newbies (in fact it could be made a > > novice install option only as the rest of us know, ahum =), what to do). > > Some working definitions in the freebsd world: > > |futile (noun): > | Any reasonable request for support for people new to FreeBSD. > > How can someone 'DO THE WORK' without first learning *HOW* to do it? That > is something that Jordan is overlooking I guess... the plainer points of > causality. > > Another working definition: > > |newbie (slang): > | See low-life, lame, retard, pain-in-the-rear. > > > The FreeBSD 'team' looks like they are in trouble when it comes to > supporting newbies. A truly dirty word. Documentation rules supreme in > this age of information. Perhaps the 'core team' needs to be renamed to > the "sore team" from all the scars taken from battles and opportunities > lost in winning over new users. > > Regards, > O Candemir > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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