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Date:      Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:53:41 -0600
From:      Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
To:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: dillon@'s commit bit: I object
Message-ID:  <200302041253.41042.linimon@lonesome.com>

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On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 09:55:19 -0700, Brett Glass wrote:

> One of the reasons I do not hack on FreeBSD more is due to
> the nastiness of the politics.

I could understand this sentiment.  But you'll have to understand
that for someone on the sidelines, like me, it's hard to reconcile
this with some of the things you've said over the past 24 hours
in -chat.  Specifically:

> [in response to Greg] Written by perhaps the most elitist member
> of -core.

and

> But there appears to have been a disturbing sea change in
> -core, in which more Core Team members seem to be acting
> out longstanding grudges.

and

> Very recently, a small group of -core members also attempted to=20
> invent reasons to remove me from all of the FreeBSD mailing lists=20
> due to personal vendettas.

and

> >This is the kind of attitude that generates forks.
>
> And knives.

I think if you reread the above statements, you'd have to see why
someone might think they were highly charged, or even political,
statements.  Yes, they are divorced of their immediate surrounding
contexts, but even so, I don't see how it's so easy to reconcile
the latter statements with the one at the top of this posting.

Me?  I have no opinion on the commit-bit fiasco except that
it could/should have been handled better.  I've been on both
sides of the coin, asking someone to leave a volunteer project
and being asked to leave, and I can't say I handled either with
much grace myself.

Nevertheless, you might consider my comments food for thought.

Mark



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