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Date:      Wed, 31 Mar 2021 20:38:32 +0200
From:      =?utf-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= <maciphone2@googlemail.com>
To:        Greg V <greg@unrelenting.technology>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Any good alternative to Raspberry for Arm64?
Message-ID:  <7E683433-883B-4105-9103-AC9C437008FB@googlemail.com>
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> On March 31, 2021 2:21:57 PM UTC, "Klaus K=C3=BCchemann" =
<maciphone2@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> really interesting   :
>> =
https://reviews.freebsd.org/R10:3a314eb5bb444ec019457e5aefaabb656fcb3d54

> Am 31.03.2021 um 19:31 schrieb Greg V <greg@unrelenting.technology>:
> This commit does nothing for *running* on Apple Silicon.
>=20
> This is about *building* FreeBSD *from macOS* on Apple Silicon. Some =
people want cross-builds from anything to work.
>=20
> These things are completely orthogonal.
>=20
> Someone working on the *running* part would generally have no reason =
to build FreeBSD on macOS specifically.

of course has nothing to do with *running* fbsd-OS natively on the M1.
But when I=E2=80=99m thinking of buying a machine for ~$1000 or even =
much more , I expect some=20
useful features of it. Being able to run fbsd-builds from MacOS is one =
of those features.

Afaik currently fbsd runs in QEMU/Parallels(don=E2=80=99t know whether =
VMware has released something)
and kettenis@ of OpenBSD made it "*running*"(for development) from =
u-boot.
https://twitter.com/bluerise/status/1359644736483655683...
=E2=80=A6something from the tux:  https://lwn.net/Articles/848307/

Well, compared to the Lx2k the currently max. of 16GB RAM and less cores =
of the M1 is something=20
to think about =E2=80=A6 running native fbsd with 16 cores/64GB RAM =
seems to be interesting=E2=80=A6

but Dan K. was right :  so many ugly gadgets lying around, and then  so =
much dollars for yet another ugly board ? :-) .. Ha Ha..while also a lot =
of SFP-cables still lying around here I=E2=80=99m actually so happy that =
they=E2=80=99re no more in use :-)
10 GB SFP+ vs. 40GB thunderbolt 3 =E2=80=A6
 well, many things to consider  when we think about what to waste our =
money on next :-)=E2=80=A6.

K.













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