Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 20:43:57 +0200 From: =?utf-8?Q?Klaus_K=C3=BCchemann?= <maciphone2@googlemail.com> To: Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any good alternative to Raspberry for Arm64? Message-ID: <4F449CAA-F542-4D85-8669-538A8AAF6FF5@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <32656ebc0189f47eb98d538b559fc7a15c6fee37.camel@freebsd.org> References: <21BE83BC-0667-44F7-83E4-1664A2BC6017@icloud.com> <E4905B08-79AD-4B48-87A0-3E0EF3027C8B@googlemail.com> <32656ebc0189f47eb98d538b559fc7a15c6fee37.camel@freebsd.org>
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> Am 28.03.2021 um 19:13 schrieb Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>: > =E2=80=A6.. Virtually any alternative arm64 system that > runs freebsd at all is a superior choice over the Rpi family. =20 :-), 2 years ago I would have said that you=E2=80=99re right=E2=80=A6. = the times they are a changing , scoobidoo... > Anything > else will have better support from the freebsd developers including, > especially, the professional developers who are paid by companies to > support freebsd on arm/arm64. your paid colleagues support aarch64 in general, RPI4 is aarch64. You vastly underestimate your other colleagues who developed special = rpi4-drivers&hacks ! > Nobody is paying anybody to support > freebsd on rpi, and consequently all you get in the way of support is > half-baked theories and anecdotal reports from other people struggling > to use an rpi with freebsd. Rpi4 is "full-baked=E2=80=9C-supported :-) , 8GB RAM, genet, pcie(USB = 3.0) , Supports JTAG, netboot etc. , it never crashed for me the last = months/years. While some drivers still missing, that=E2=80=99s also the case for other = boards. As a =E2=80=9Epower to serve=E2=80=9C-cheap-board it`s fully supported, = no problems (since the beginning of the 1st cpu-hack)! > If you're looking to save every penny possible and are willing to put > up with endless frustration and things not working, get an rpi. If = you > want a usable arm64 computer that runs freebsd, get anything else. >=20 you mean the missing documentation-frustration? While there=E2=80=99s even a little docs available, but e.g. Crowston = didn=E2=80=99t need docs, he used JTAG :-) Ha Ha=20 For still missing drivers the documentation is in other BSDs or = tux.(e.g. genet -driver was based on other BSD-driver). I didn=E2=80=99t save every penny, have RK3388, RK3399 and some other = archs, even Risc-V. None of the other boards can be considered as =E2=80=9ESMOOTHLY=E2=80=9C = working because of paid developers, Long list of examples available , but that`not the topic. Some people(and developers) didn=E2=80=99t understand the closed source = environment of rpi-firmware. ( and other things like u-boot,eeprom)... That=E2=80=99s why we are here and do support the RPI4 by full-baked = theories, anecdotal reports, mystical patches and extraordinary = configuration-hints. Ha Ha :-) Regards K.
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