Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:33:19 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> To: Paul Schmehl <pauls@utdallas.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usb/umass, devfs: this sucks Message-ID: <20071226162252.X88719@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <3A8ACE339481E6EDC53CDAFF@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> References: <200712212341.44308@aldan> <200712221313.lBMDDx5M036478@lava.sentex.ca> <200712260038.11546@aldan> <20071226062508.GA85141@parts-unknown.org> <2C4BA76BE60FC029360155FE@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> <20071226153541.S88508@wonkity.com> <3A8ACE339481E6EDC53CDAFF@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local>
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On December 26, 2007 3:45:15 PM -0700 Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> > wrote: > >> It seems like we need another kind of storage, something that is known >> to be only mostly data-safe. If the system would gracefully handle >> unexpected media removals, that would be nice. Not everything is a >> trustworthy hard drive. >> >> The user ought to be able to tell the system "Yes, da0s1 is an msdos >> filesystem which I'm going to be yanking out at unexpected times. Yes, >> I know it might lose some data, but at least figure things out and don't >> panic." >> > > I absolutely agree with this. At a minimum it should be possible to forcibly > umount a device that you removed after forgetting to umount it first. If I > had the first clue about the code, I'd submit a patch. The code is likely... er, non-trivial, and might reach into some deep places. Maybe a project the FreeBSD Foundation would sponsor? (Seems like there was something about bounty projects being ungood, but maybe I have that wrong. If not, I think a lot of us would be willing to contribute funds to a "Don't Panic: Removable Media" project.) -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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