Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 03:52:47 -0800 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "Sasa Stupar" <sasa@stupar.homelinux.net>, <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song) Message-ID: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNOEBFFDAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <FD6D79D49B90F67B47B4CDBA@[192.168.10.249]>
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Sasa, Try this ping flooder then: http://my-security.net/outofsite/ICMP%20Ping%20Flood.zip Ted >-----Original Message----- >From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:sasa@stupar.homelinux.net] >Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 12:00 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >Song) > > >It doesn't work on winxp. I am going to build another machine >with FreeBSD >5.4 and I'll try it then and let you know the results. > >Sasa > >--On 18. december 2005 14:02 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt ><tedm@toybox.placo.com> >wrote: > >> >> In looking at this again, I didn't realize you were pinging from >> Win2K >> >> Win2K uses the -f option to set the Do Not Fragment bit, UNIX uses >> the -f option to flood ping. Win2k ping does not have a flood ping >> option. You can download a ping for Windows from Microsoft here: >> >> http://research.microsoft.com/barc/mbone/mping.aspx >> >> that does have an option for flooding traffic. ( set the milliseconds >> between packets very low) but I have not tested it. Doubtless >> others are available on the Internet. >> >> Ted >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sasa Stupar >>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:07 AM >>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme >>> Song) >>> >>> >>> Nothing. From the GUI view it is at 0% of utilisation. >>> >>> Sasa >>> >>> --On 18. december 2005 3:51 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt >>> <tedm@toybox.placo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> what does the CPU of the router do when your doing that? >>>> >>>> Ted >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of >Sasa Stupar >>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:00 AM >>>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: >Freebsd Theme >>>>> Song) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --On 18. december 2005 2:32 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt >>>>> <tedm@toybox.placo.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of >>> Sasa Stupar >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 2:21 AM >>>>>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd >>>>>>> Theme Song) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --On 18. december 2005 1:33 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt >>>>>>> <tedm@toybox.placo.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:sasa@stupar.homelinux.net] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:25 AM >>>>>>>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; danial_thom@yahoo.com; Drew Tomlinson >>>>>>>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd >>>>>>>>> Theme Song) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --On 16. december 2005 3:36 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt >>>>>>>>> <tedm@toybox.placo.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:sasa@stupar.homelinux.net] >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:34 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; danial_thom@yahoo.com; Drew Tomlinson >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was >Re: Freebsd >>>>>>>>>>> Theme Song) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm, here is test with iperf what I have done with and >>>>>>>>> without polling: >>>>>>>>>>> ************** >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 >>>>>>>>>>> TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1088 connected with >>>>>>>>>>> 192.168.1.200 port 5001 >>>>>>>>>>> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth >>>>>>>>>>> [1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 108 MBytes 90.1 Mbits/sec >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is when I use Device polling option on m0n0. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If I disable this option then my transfer is worse: >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001 >>>>>>>>>>> TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default) >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1086 connected with >>>>>>>>>>> 192.168.1.200 port 5001 >>>>>>>>>>> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth >>>>>>>>>>> [1816] 0.0-10.0 sec 69.7 MBytes 58.4 Mbits/sec >>>>>>>>>>> *************** >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> BTW: my router is m0n0wall (FBSD 4.11). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> what are the cpu speeds and operating systems of all devices >>>>>>>>>> in the packet path, what is the make and model of switchs in >>>>>>>>>> use, provide dmesg output of the bsd box, a network diagram >>>>>>>>>> of the setup, etc. etc. etc. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The above test results are not replicatable and thus, >worthless. >>>>>>>>>> Useful test results would allow a reader to build an exact >>>>>>>>>> duplicate of your setup, config it identically, and get >>> identical >>>>>>>>>> results. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK. The server (192.168.1.200) is FreeBSD 5.4 with Duron 900 >>>>>>> and 3C905C >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The 3com 3c905 is not a very good card under FreeBSD the >>> driver was >>>>>>>> written >>>>>>>> without support from 3com and is shakey on a lot of >>>>> hardware. I would >>>>>>>> say >>>>>>>> there's a big question that your server is actually >saturating the >>>>>>>> ethernet. >>>>>>>> Probably that is why your only getting 90Mbt. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> NIC; router is m0n0wall (FreeBSD 4.11) with three Intel >>>>>>>>> Pro/100S Nics and >>>>>>>>> Celeron 433; The user computer (192.168.10.249) is Celeron 2400 >>>>>>>>> with winxp >>>>>>>>> and integrated NIC Realtek 8139 series. Switch is CNET >CNSH-1600. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Once again, the winxp+realtek 8139 is not a particularly >>>>>>> steller combo, >>>>>>>> I would question that this system could saturate the >>>>> ethernet, either. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Diagram: <http://me.homelinux.net/network.pdf>; >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> dmesg from the router: >>>>>>>>> ---------------- >>>>>>>>> $ dmesg >>>>>>>>> Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project. >>>>>>>>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, >>>>>>> 1992, 1993, 1994 >>>>>>>>> The Regents of the University of California. All >rights reserved. >>>>>>>>> FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p11 #0: Wed Sep 7 13:49:09 CEST 2005 >>>>>>>>> root@fb411.neon1.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/M0N0WALL_GENERIC >>>>>>>>> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz >>>>>>>>> CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (434.32-MHz >>> 686-class CPU) >>>>>>>>> Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x665 Stepping = 5 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,P >>>>>>>>> GE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR> >>>>>>>>> real memory = 201326592 (196608K bytes) >>>>>>>>> avail memory = 179142656 (174944K bytes) >>>>>>>>> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc1006000. >>>>>>>>> Preloaded mfs_root "/mfsroot" at 0xc100609c. >>>>>>>>> Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled >>>>>>>>> md0: Preloaded image </mfsroot> 11534336 bytes at 0xc0504d9c >>>>>>>>> md1: Malloc disk >>>>>>>>> Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00fdef0 >>>>>>>>> npx0: <math processor> on motherboard >>>>>>>>> npx0: INT 16 interface >>>>>>>>> pcib0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on >motherboard >>>>>>>>> pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0 >>>>>>>>> pcib1: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device >>>>>>>>> 1.0 on pci0 >>>>>>>>> pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1 >>>>>>>>> isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0 >>>>>>>>> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0 >>>>>>>>> atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f at >>>>>>>>> device 7.1 on >>>>>>>>> pci0 >>>>>>>>> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 >>>>>>>>> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 >>>>>>>>> uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port >>>>>>>>> 0xd000-0xd01f irq 11 >>>>>>>>> at device 7.2 on pci0 >>>>>>>>> usb0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> on uhci0 >>>>>>>>> usb0: USB revision 1.0 >>>>>>>>> uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 >>>>>>>>> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered >>>>>>>>> chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port >>>>>>>>> 0x5000-0x500f at >>>>>>>>> device 7.3 on pci0 >>>>>>>>> pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x1274, dev=0x1371) at 8.0 irq 11 >>>>>>>>> fxp0: <Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet> port 0xd800-0xd83f mem >>>>>>>>> 0xd0400000-0xd041ffff,0xd0460000-0xd0460fff irq 10 at device >>>>>>>>> 15.0 on pci0 >>>>>>>>> fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:62:f6:06 >>>>>>>>> inphy0: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus0 >>>>>>>>> inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >>>>>>>>> fxp1: <Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet> port 0xdc00-0xdc3f mem >>>>>>>>> 0xd0420000-0xd043ffff,0xd0462000-0xd0462fff irq 12 at device >>>>>>>>> 16.0 on pci0 >>>>>>>>> fxp1: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:9c:2a:16 >>>>>>>>> inphy1: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus1 >>>>>>>>> inphy1: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >>>>>>>>> fxp2: <Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet> port 0xe000-0xe03f mem >>>>>>>>> 0xd0440000-0xd045ffff,0xd0461000-0xd0461fff irq 7 at device >>>>>>> 19.0 on pci0 >>>>>>>>> fxp2: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:8c:e4:f6 >>>>>>>>> inphy2: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus2 >>>>>>>>> inphy2: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto >>>>>>>>> pmtimer0 on isa0 >>>>>>>>> fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq >>>>>>>>> 2 on isa0 >>>>>>>>> fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold >>>>>>>>> fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 >>>>>>>>> atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port >0x60,0x64 on isa0 >>>>>>>>> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 >>>>>>>>> sio0: type 16550A, console >>>>>>>>> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 >>>>>>>>> BRIDGE 020214 loaded >>>>>>>>> IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. >>>>>>>>> IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized. Default = block all, >>>>>>> Logging = enabled >>>>>>>>> ad0: 3098MB <WDC AC33200L> [6296/16/63] at ata0-master PIO4 >>>>>>>>> acd0: CDROM <LITE-ON CD-ROM LTN-527T> at ata1-master PIO4 >>>>>>>>> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c >>>>>>>>> fxp1: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec bundle_max: 6 >>>>>>>>> fxp0: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec bundle_max: 6 >>>>>>>>> fxp2: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec bundle_max: 6 >>>>>>>>> ata0: resetting devices .. done >>>>>>>>> ------------- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you need more just ask for it. You don't need to be >>>>> angry. Peace. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> OK, next question: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ftp transfer like this uses large packets, rerun the test >>>>> with ping -f >>>>>>>> with different ping packet sizes, post the results. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Remember, routers have to deal with many sized packets. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Interesting. I have tested like you've said and I could ping >>>>>>> with packet >>>>>>> size 1450 bytes. Everything bigger is telling that >"packet must be >>>>>>> fragmented but DF is set up". This is of course pinging >>> from winxp to >>>>>>> server. >>>>>> >>>>>> That is normal since under winxp ping sets the DF bit I believe. >>>>>> >>>>>> The larger packets are not what matters, the smaller >>> packets are more >>>>>> interesting. I find it hard to believe your getting the same >>>>> throughput >>>>>> with >>>>>> flood pinging with 56 byte packets. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ted >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here is the output: >>>>> ------------- >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings\nathsasa>ping -t -f -l 56 mig29 >>>>> >>>>> Preverjanje dosegljivosti mig29.workgroup [192.168.1.200] z >>> 56 B podatk >>>>> >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> Odgovor od 192.168.1.200: bajtov=56 čas < 1 ms TTL=63 >>>>> >>>>> Statistika preverjanja dosegljivosti za 192.168.1.200: >>>>> Paketov: Poslanih = 46, Prejetih = 46, Izgubljenih = 0 >>> (0% izguba), >>>>> Povprečni čas v milisekundah: >>>>> Minimum = 0ms, Maksimum = 0ms, Povprečje = 0ms >>>>> ----------- >>>>> >>>>> It's in my native language but the position is the same as >>> in english. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sasa Stupar >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: >>>>> 12/16/2005 >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sasa Stupar >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: >>> 12/16/2005 >>> >> > > > >-- >Sasa Stupar > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: >12/16/2005 >
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