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Date:      Tue, 3 Jan 2006 14:57:50 -0400
From:      "RH Lists " <lists@101.net>
To:        "'DSA - JCR'" <juancr@dsa.es>, <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: newby isp questions
Message-ID:  <20060103185748.6B31043D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <1621.217.114.136.133.1136295524.squirrel@llca513-a.servidoresdns.net>

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Hello Juan, and welcome.

>From your questions, it sounds like you don't want to be an ISP, but a
hosting company (HSP).=20

I doubt you can run an effective hosting business on an ADSL line, for =
two
reasons:

1. you will limited by the UPLOAD speed of your line.  ADSL is generally
fast in one direction only. The fastest anyone will be able to download =
is
the upload speed of your line.  Is 512kbps enough?  Not usually these =
days.
(Then again, I started in 1995 with a 128k fractional T1, and it lasted =
me
about a year - times have changed!)
2. Around here at least, ADSL connections use PPPoE protocol, which =
limits
the MTU to 1492 or lower.  This can *sometimes* cause problems when =
running
a server.

You can probably run a test server from your home this way. If you need =
more
bandwidth, it's often best to lease a server or collocate it in a high
bandwidth secure environment.

You will be able to run all of the required services on FreeBSD - all =
but
one box in our network is FreeBSD (routers and switches excluded).  =
However
for hosting more than a few sites, we found it easier to stop =
configuring
sites manually, and bought a hosting control panel. Ensim doesn't run on
FreeBSD, and doesn't work with private IP addresses. It does however =
support
domain aliases - I like that feature a lot.  We use it on a Fedora box.  =
I
use Plesk for my own websites, on a FreeBSD (5.3-SECURITY) box, in =
private
IP space. It is also very nice.

It comes down to what you want to do - have a box to play on and learn, =
or
have a viable business.  Rarely do the two objectives collide.

Regarding your questions,

1. no, they don't have to be separate.  Personally, I believe in =
hardware
firewalls.=20
2. see my warning on adsl. But if you can get FreeBSD to see the usb =
network
device, have fun.
3. no, every domain doesn't need its own jail.
3a. unless you are using ssl (https), each domain doesn't need its own =
IP
address.

Where to start learning?

www.webhostingtalk.com
http://www.oreilly.com/
http://www.devshed.com/c/b/Apache/
http://www.isc.org/

Depending on what mail server you use,

www.sendmail.org
www.postfix.org - personal favourite
www.qmail.org

Good luck!

Rob


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org =
[mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org]
On Behalf Of DSA - JCR
Sent: January 3, 2006 9:39 AM
To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject: newby isp questions

Hi all in this list and Happy New Year !!!

I am New to FreeBSD but not to OSes and UNIX and would like to became in
an ISP, in a very first moment only with my own domain, and after we =
will
see ... ;D

I would like to know if the configuration in which i am thinking is =
right
or not.

I have and ADSL modem (1Mb by now) connecting to an ISP.

This is what I am thinking to do:

- I must have a fix IP from my ISP.
- The ADSL modem will connect to a Firewall box (FreeBSD or m0n0Wall?). =
I
am thinking in an old PC I have. Can this be made without Hard disk, =
only
with CD?.
- This Firewall connect to a PC with FreeBSD 6.0 and web capabilities
(Apache, mail...).
- In order to protect my network, I would use NAT, in the Firewall, and
connect my PC to it as a gateway.

Questions:
- Must I separate the Firewall/Nat from the Webserver box or can be the
same?
- My ADSL modem uses USB to conect to PC, can I use it or is better a =
hub
adsl type?
- In the Webserver box, if I want to have diferent web domains,must I =
put
each one in a jail? and what about the IP of each domain, only one NIC?.

Where can I learn about this? books?...

Sincerely and thanks in advance

Juan Coru=F1a
Desarrollo de Software Atlantico



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