Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 11:13:11 -0500 From: "A. Wilcox" <AWilcox@Wilcox-Tech.com> To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time to retire PC Card (but not CardBus) Message-ID: <e3169085-3808-b9ae-6dfd-ce494a85410a@Wilcox-Tech.com> In-Reply-To: <201905242207.x4OM7HHi083229@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <201905242207.x4OM7HHi083229@fire.js.berklix.net>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --BaHgiWCyW6HOh1bX5QKusdlFfm2OTffdG Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="r8U1ZuHabem7gMWYXD5hUq8LawXnx8KKE"; protected-headers="v1" From: "A. Wilcox" <AWilcox@Wilcox-Tech.com> To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Message-ID: <e3169085-3808-b9ae-6dfd-ce494a85410a@Wilcox-Tech.com> Subject: Re: Time to retire PC Card (but not CardBus) References: <201905242207.x4OM7HHi083229@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201905242207.x4OM7HHi083229@fire.js.berklix.net> --r8U1ZuHabem7gMWYXD5hUq8LawXnx8KKE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/24/19 17:07, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Warner Losh wrote: >> This is the logical next step. FreeBSD 12.x will be the >> last release with 16-bit PC Card support. >> >> My plan is to add deprecation notices to the remaining PC Card drivers= , >> merge those back to FreeBSD 11 and 12. Once that's done, I plan on rem= oving >> the 16-bit support. I have a few minor bug fixes to that which I'll pu= sh in >> before I retire it, and merge those fixes. >> >> My plan is to give about a month for the community to discuss this pla= n >> before I add the warnings. If there's resistance, we'll go with more f= ormal >> data collection and deprecation. If there's none, I'll go ahead. >=20 > Purges always scare, cutting off our tails, wondering how many we > loose & don't hear from Versus how much easier it might make > development for others. > Isn't the "usual" approach that the *next* release is the last one with $thing_we_dont_like_anymore? For instance, FCP-101 was done when 12 was CURRENT, and now 12 is the last one usable on many of my i386. This would be the rest. I mean, that's fine and all, because I haven't even run FreeBSD on i386 since people made fun of me on the mailing list for the crime of still owning a Pentium II. Actually, that's a good point - I'm out. --arw --=20 A. Wilcox (awilfox) Open-source programmer (C, C++, Python) https://code.foxkit.us/u/awilfox/ --r8U1ZuHabem7gMWYXD5hUq8LawXnx8KKE-- --BaHgiWCyW6HOh1bX5QKusdlFfm2OTffdG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEjNyWOYPU1SaTSMHHyynLUZIrnRQFAlzpaZoACgkQyynLUZIr nRRMOA/9GNQgsy/FqOMaZaYBhTy6lkg8IVFR89wzcp9elxjyuPBeEzyDnR4puO42 mGL4+uh0bMxHIb6+hHfrpfuJfu6Z1idF+MBIhXSOtkov1bobjooPwxGkUoSSvaOZ D2me0byMF2RcA+rx2lANKLCGPS6qB0h6DGP1d3r2ezZApZgk0o1nt4QV4KG6/Vyh I2E3sfFdjCpSdTwuISlHN/hd1bH5SHtRDbG5qsugf3o9f8WDsQgXTNo9E8V5VBw0 5vrPSEt9x/4M8AHecZp6ryIK1LZV6GJHwgLp7EqndeczHnJd5ebk30HSeYfKj1Ks 1lCd+sVchw7kenrBHw/4w+OXM5hH4EcQs//oLcAdv/XKZniRd8afV5HMnKxEhScT uTx3rx8tJU03yV8LGA9kadHjhtVt6HJYdObmRE4RpfVWNrHyNIOVFg4MxVyMm+mR Oce8p6lYWi2Xgb8By711vapcq1Fc+lXjtohAsXPXOfkmhHljJ0zvA+5E61NMIBjc Ngs1qnqPL3qGrJMS2OX1h1Ip3E4lYQ2Px1BWy1ygcKV6tkdtsa1pjdjWD9jsMgxB TuKsUer2mdk38ydh4Mdm49aJca9zSQMxYHPInDwP24eAibn+GvFHBZI/E4XoaSUN 1IS9F8Cu3jrAO6Lmns7Of8q3jO1avUhQs42waVo4nnAhUwzOvHA= =A2s4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BaHgiWCyW6HOh1bX5QKusdlFfm2OTffdG--
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