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Date:      Tue, 26 Nov 1996 03:31:39 -0800 (PST)
From:      Snob Art Genre <ben@narcissus.ml.org>
To:        Robert Nordier <rnordier@iafrica.com>
Cc:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>, grog@lemis.de, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: A simple way to crash your system.
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.961126033125.339B-100000@narcissus.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <199611261049.MAA02308@eac.iafrica.com>

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On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Robert Nordier wrote:

> Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> 
> > > - remove it and announce the fact on -announce.
> > 
> > That won't last more than a week - people don't search the archives
> > and memories are short.
> > 
> > > - make it read-only (will this help?)
> > 
> > It already is read-only by default if you mount it from the label
> > editor.  People change it back the minute they want to write on
> > it. :-)
> > 
> > I'm not sure what to do.  Putting it into the release notes under a
> > "STILL BROKEN" section seems also excessive.. :)
> 
> FWIW, the table below represents a couple of months of collecting
> data from users on -questions, who reported that the msdosfs had
> seriously corrupted a UFS partition.
> 
>        DRIVE              DOS START        DOS END
>        cyl  head sect ||  cyl  head sect   cyl  head sect      size
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> wd0 |  525 | 64 |  63 ||    0 |  1 |  1 |  126 | 63 |  63 |  512001
> wd0 | 2099 | 64 |  63 ||    0 |  1 |  1 |  189 | 63 |  63 |  766017
>       same drive      ||  250 |  0 |  1 |  523 | 63 |  63 | 1104768
> wd0 |  788 | 64 |  63 ||    0 |  1 |  1 |  787 | 63 |  63 | 3177153
> wd0 |  621 | 64 |  63 ||    0 |  1 |  1 |  619 | 63 |  63 | 2499777
> wd0 |  525 | 64 |  63 ||    0 |  1 |  1 |  523 | 63 |  63 | 2112705
> 
> *All* problems occurred with the DOS FS on a 64/63 IDE drive.  FIPS
> was not necessarily used.  In one case, the corrupted UFS fs was
> actually on another drive.
> 
> Unless someone is aware of the problem being more general, it may
> be worth patching the msdosfs code to (by default) refuse to access
> DOS FSes with > 16 sectors per cluster on such drives.
> 
> Or at least warn that 64/63 IDE setups are particularly vulnerable.
> 
> --
> Robert Nordier
> 

My drive was/is SCSI.



 Ben




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