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Date:      Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:37:36 -0600 (MDT)
From:      Atipa <freebsd@atipa.com>
To:        Tim Pushor <timp@orion.ab.ca>
Cc:        John Birrell <jb@cimlogic.com.au>, Tom Brown <Tom@mercia.com>, freeBSD-Mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: XIG Motif (was Re: Dead mailing list!)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980609112522.4078B-100000@altrox.atipa.com>
In-Reply-To: <357D28A9.C3435D07@orion.ab.ca>

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We are authorized resellers for XIG, and I have noticed that they are
moving away from their OSF ports and focusing on their X-Servers, which
make them more money. I also think that their user base is becoming more
and more linuxy. They had a strong NetBSD/FreeNSD/BSDI base at their
inception, but now they are strongly Linux oriented. 

I also know that all their examples do not even build out of the box. I
have to hack all the Makefiles for a release that is supposed to be ported
to FreeBSD. Their periodic table of widgets didn't even build on their
2.2 release last I checked. I did not spend much time on it though; I am
sure with enough effort it would, but why should we have to kludge an
OS-specific release?

I do not speak for XIG or Atipa in any way; I am only relaying what I have
noticed recently. I do not know if they have any plans to change these
things. How stable and portable is Qt? Might this be a better solution? 

Is the JDK set on using Motif? 

Kevin

<aside - I think Motif is an beast, personally. I
have been doing a lot of my UI's in Tk, which looks just as nice and
requires 90% less coding, and no recompiles, but that is irrelevant to
this discussion... :) >



On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Tim Pushor wrote:

> John Birrell wrote:
> 
> > Tom Brown wrote:
> > > Just as soon as I find out where I can get a copy of Motif that doesn't cost
> > > $1200 or get the correct lib's.
> >
> > US$149 from www.xig.com
> 
> Hmmm I purchased this Motif 2.0 from XIG some time ago when FreeBSD release level
> was at 2.1.7. As soon as I upgraded to 2.2 (and the corresponding XFree86
> release) it broke Motif. Things would still build but would very often dump core.
> XIG's solution was to use the XFree release from 2.1.7 and if I needed the newer
> video drivers from the newer releases to just use the newer releases server, and
> the old releases libs. I had Motif running for about 30 days before it did not
> get installed again on any of my machines..
> 
> They aren't even answering my email anymore about a newer version of Motif.
> 
> Has anyone else had similar experiences?
> 
> Tim
> 
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