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Date:      Wed, 14 Jan 2015 09:30:34 -0800
From:      "Chris H" <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com>
To:        <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: BIND REPLACE_BASE option
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 04:27:42 -0800 Jeffrey Bouquet via freebsd-ports
<freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> wrote

> On 01/13/15 07:55, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> >> customizations you need available.  If the default options don't cut it
> >> for you, in order to use only binary packages that means you need to run
> >> your own poudriere setup -- which is well worth it if you're managing
> >> several machines / jails etc.
> > poudriere allows you to manage several seperate pkg trees with different
> > options, so you can:
> >
> > - build a default tree (and pkg repo), provide it to all generic hosts
> > - build a seperate tree (and pkg repo) with modified options, and
> >   provide it to the special hosts
> >
> > It helps to keep the poudriere build tree on fast flash/SSD drives 8-}
> >
> > This all works and is very, very good! Thanks for the work!
> >
> As I probably won't ever know enough from experience, if one wants a
> local lan
> build tool is there any flowchart with use cases
> 
> 1... foo foo bar use case >> tinderbox
> 2... foo foo bar use case >> build jail
> 3... foo foo bar use case >> bhyve
> 4... foo foo bar use case >> poudriere
> 5... foo foo bar use case >> csbd OR qjail OR ezjail OR man jail OR
> bastille script
> 6... foo foo bar use case >> server on lan serving packages
> 
> And where they may overlap, which takes the least setup time, which
> takes the
> least maintenance time, which can be most easily migrated version >
> version ...
Excellent observation. These look like prime "install candidates".
A sort of meta-install, much like a Server, or Desktop install is
already. Maybe someone with good install-foo could easily cobble up
appropriate scripts to accommodate such a thing.

Thanks for bringing it up, Jeffrey!

--Chris
> 
> 
> 
> Not to mention the wiki, but if that information was "[some term ] use
> cases" like
> virtualization or multi-machine or... on the freebsd.org page
> prominently, it may
> result in a larger userbase... more coders onboard.
> 
> Recognizing that a lot of this is emerging technology.  Apologies.  I've
> a slight
> interest in reading any such document, having read an hour or so
> yesterday not
> a few htm explaining jails, (10 pages of threads linked from
> a search 'ezjail' in the forums, for example) to know that acquiring the
> expertise of
> a quickstart group of terms to focus on in any particular scenario is
> something I don't
> easily expect to acquire.
> 
> On the other hand, to include the wiki... vs links from it.
> 
> 
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