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Date:      Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:03:29 -0500 (EST)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@mat.net>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
Cc:        bsletten@nova.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: AOUT/ELF 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9903031701031.325-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <199903032136.OAA14551@mt.sri.com>

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On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Nate Williams wrote:

> This is true, but it is not David and Phillipe's (sp?) attempt to be
> more picky than javac.  For example, I sent in a bug report for 0.44
> that caused them to 'unfix' a change they made due to their reading of
> the specification differently than javac.  Apparently (since it works
> like javac again in 0.45) they must feel that javac implementation is
> 'correct'.
> 
> When it's obvious that jikes is correct and javac isn't (based on
> reading the specification), or when they are unsure which of the two is
> correct, they send email to Sun for enlightenment.  Apparently javac has
> been modified from a couple of these emails. :)
> 
> My only fear is that jikes will become less useful as a 'java'
> compiler.  Because it is open-source, there have already been a number
> of requests to 'extend' Java language with new (useful) features.

I couldn't possibly agree more.  The folks want to add enough features
until it's no longer a small language ... folks who love adding more and
more "elegance", no matter how uncomplicated and unpredictable the
results get.

> Unfortunately, as we've seen with gcc, the resulting 'language' is no
> longer 'C', and is instead 'Gnu-C'.
> 
> Fortunately, the IBM guys have been good about rejecting such changes,
> but I think it's only a matter of time before it diverges into a new
> language.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Nate
> 
> 
> 

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