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Date:      Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:42:50 +1000
From:      Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
To:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: upgrading notes
Message-ID:  <19981020174250.34448@welearn.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <362BBD20.4B26@echidna.com>; from Graeme Tait on Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 03:28:48PM -0700
References:  <19981019180600.39400@welearn.com.au> <362B79C3.EAA3607E@gorean.org> <362BBD20.4B26@echidna.com>

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On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 03:28:48PM -0700, Graeme Tait wrote:
> Studded wrote:
> > 
> > Sue Blake wrote:
> > 
> > > My suggestions for newbies are:
> > >
> > >  - Don't try to be first kid on the block with a new version.
> > >    Let the expert and the gullible fall into any holes first.
> > 
> >         I would extend this to say, "Never install a FreeBSD -RELEASE." I don't
> > remember the last time a -Release didn't create a bunch of errors due to
> > last minute cramming in of things. Watch the -Stable mailing list (for
> > 2.2.x) and wait for things to calm down a bit after the -Release and
> > then install the latest -Stable.
> 
> 
> Well, this business of FreeBSD versions certainly is confusing for this newbie. My 
> understanding is that what gets issued with Greg Lehey's book is -RELEASE (mine 
> being 2.2.6R).

That's part of the confusion I suggested was avoidable by using
-questions if doing non-standard things. And it's another damn good
reason for having discussions with the experts held in the place where
experts hang out to help, freebsd-questions. There they present
opinions which are open to review by their peers. Any difference of
opinion is clarified quickly in that exposed forum, at any level. In
-newbies we have no frame of reference and every talker is a god.

I was recommending, only from what I've been told as a newbie, that in
general -RELEASE is what newbies should be looking at unless there's a
strong reason to do otherwise. It was only a guess. Now we have a
learned view that newbies should never deal with a -RELEASE but should
consider that their last option, after -STABLE and -CURRENT.
(Personally I can't understand what goes on in freebsd-stable let alone
freebsd-current but I'm just thick). There are probably good reasons on
all sides, but who cares. We need square one, not squares 1 to 53.

OK, assembled learned helpers, sort it out for yourselves where you can
see each other, and put your final recommendation for what branch
newbies should be on into the handbook, if it's that important. We got
plenty to confuse ourselves with already without weighing up the big
fish in our pond.

-- 

Regards,
        -*Sue*-


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