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Date:      Fri, 11 Aug 1995 12:42:33 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
To:        jmb@kryten.Atinc.COM
Cc:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, john@zyqad.co.uk, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Upgrade to my machine
Message-ID:  <199508111942.MAA04834@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.3.89.9508111313.E6515-0100000@kryten.atinc.com> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Aug 11, 95 01:59:49 pm

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> On Fri, 11 Aug 1995, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> 
> > XX. BAS DEC3053L Dec/Quantum 535MB 3.5"x1", SCSI-II, 5400 RPM, 9.5mS   $ 195.00
> 
> 	rod, this is a great drive and i am very satisfied with mine ;)  
> it is also a loud drive.  when i hit swap on it, i know immediately.  the 
> seek motor must be a monster! ;)

Getting that last .5mS cost a bit in noise.  You should be in a room with
10 of those laying out on benches running make worlds on a pile of machines,
now that is LOUD.

There are not so loud that once you put them in a case you can't stand
next to it and have a phone conversation (I know drives that are that
LOUD :-)).

And if you want it to make noise, just fire up ``find /'', it's much noisier
than a little paging :-)

> > XX. MER FUJ-1606S Fujitsu M1606S 1.0GB 3.5"x1" 5400RPM 10mS            $ 427.00
> 
> 	this is also a very nice drive, and its quiet as a mouse.   i 
> have to listen carefully to hear it.  (could be the result of years on a 
> motorcycle)

It's not the motorcycle riding :-).  Fujitsu is pretty good about quite
drives, but boy there Alegro 7200RPM 2G drive is a loud one.  It makes the
3053L sound quite in comparison!  But it is not seek noise for that drive,
it has a horrible spindle noise, and no, this was not a single drive with
bad bearings.  I went to RMA it and we went through 5 drives, all the
same, and then we called Fujitsu, and they gave us the sound level spec
for the drive.  I was not very happy about it :-(.

> > balance the application accross multiple spindls _or_ you had stripping
> > technology in the OS you where running.
> 
> 	talking of stripping, a while back, you, terry and others (if i 
> remember correctly) discussed disk stripping and spindle syncing a  
...

See other reply to a reply on this subject from some one else :-)
> 
> IOZONE: auto-test mode 

Pretty typical numbers, but the numbers I use are always for a
freshly newfs disk using the outer tracks (ie, maximal conditions).

Your numbers are considerably lower than my 2.4/4.4MB/sec rating
for the DSP3053L due to file system fragmentation and the fact your
probably running at about the 250MB mark in on the disk (guessed from
your numbers :-)).
> 
> bonnie:

I really should start to run bonnie under the same conditions as I do
Iozone and see if I can correlate the two sets of numbers.

> 
> /* dont jive with the iozone number very well, do they ? comments ? */

Was this under identical conditions?

> 
> disklabels:  NOTE: any misconfiguration here is my fault
> 		   any recommenations are appreciated

Actually, any miss configuration on the DSP3053L is _MY_ fault.  That
is my standard label, I recognize it!

> 
> type: SCSI
> disk: sd1s1

This one you can take the blame for, but it is reasonable.
> 
> 
> /* sysinstall put all these partitions off cylinder boundaries.....hmmm */

You don't have to worry about cyl boundaries inside the BSD slice.


-- 
Rod Grimes                                      rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com
Accurate Automation Company                 Reliable computers for FreeBSD



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