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Date:      Thu, 09 May 2002 12:09:32 -0500
From:      "Jack L. Stone" <jackstone@sage-one.net>
To:        Claus Assmann <ca+greg@esmtp.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Stable List <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: /var/spool/{mqueue,clientmqueue} and 'mailq'
Message-ID:  <3.0.5.32.20020509120932.03016918@mail.sage-one.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020509095907.A26433@zardoc.esmtp.org>
References:  <3.0.5.32.20020509115700.03016918@mail.sage-one.net> <3.0.5.32.20020509071919.011c7318@mail.sage-one.net> <15577.60930.577722.682790@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20020509012717.GA43918@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> <3.0.5.32.20020509071919.011c7318@mail.sage-one.net> <15578.40154.708777.223495@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3.0.5.32.20020509115700.03016918@mail.sage-one.net>

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At 09:59 AM 5.9.2002 -0700, Claus Assmann wrote:
>On Thu, May 09, 2002, Jack L. Stone wrote:
>> At 08:59 AM 5.9.2002 -0700, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote:
>> >jackstone> ...a further question I have that I don't see in the mailq man
>> >jackstone> pages is how to kill the remaining part of a majordomo mailing
>> >jackstone> where the system wants to keeping trying to deliver some
>> >jackstone> stale-addressed remaining emails for up to 5 days. These emails
>> >jackstone> will never be delivered because the address have become
stale. I
>> >jackstone> have removed them from the mail list so they won;t be there at
>> >jackstone> the next mailing, but, the mqueue is still trying to deliver
>> >jackstone> them needlessly.  That queue was uselful in shwoing the bad
>> >jackstone> addresses, but need to be purged.... but how...???
>> >
>> >sendmail automatically bounces the mail after 5 days (by default, see
>> >Timeout.queuereturn).
>> >
>> Gregory: Yes, I knew that, but since I also know that is a waste of time on
>> these emails, I was curious if there was a safe way of removing them so the
>> system could go on to new things.
>
>Can you post a real example? What was the SMTP reply code of the
>other side? A permanent (5xy) error? In that case the recipient
>should not be tried again.
>
The list keeps dwindling down, but the ones left have mostly "server reset"
or "server timeout". But, even though sendmail is being loyal in its
attempts to deliver, I know now that the emails are stale (one guy died for
instance)..... so, there's no point in sendmail keeping on, but as long as
it doesn't interfere with the next mailings, I suppose there's nothing to
be concerned about if they go away after 5 days. I have purged these stale
addresses from the mail list so they won't be put though again....

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Best regards,

Jack L. Stone
Server Admin

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