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Date:      Fri, 7 Mar 2003 18:01:47 +0200
From:      Vallo Kallaste <kalts@estpak.ee>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>, David Schultz <das@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: "leak" in softupdates?
Message-ID:  <20030307160147.GA3422@kevad.internal>
In-Reply-To: <200303070648.26984.wes@softweyr.com>
References:  <20030305204526.T38115@hub.org> <20030307101718.GA1908@kevad.internal> <20030307081643.B15693@hub.org> <200303070648.26984.wes@softweyr.com>

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On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:48:26AM -0800, Wes Peters
<wes@softweyr.com> wrote:

> > > putting real challenge to VM. All this means that FreeBSD
> > > isn't ready to enterprise yet, no matter what advocacy has to say.
> > > I'm glad Marc hasn't gave up and every now-and-then sends the
> > > findings out to lists, for the benefit of others, particularly
> > > developers. One word about "enterprise"; I'm sure Yahoo and similar
> > > big players run also FreeBSD on "big boxes", but they have real
> > > engineers in the field and have customised installations, I guess.
> > > Off-the-shelf FreeBSD isn't ready yet.
> 
> Off-the-shelf FreeBSD is about as good as most commercial UNIX systems; 
> you seem to have either overestimated their ability to handle loads that 
> are absurd for the hardware or have had a much better experience than I 
> have.

It's more like I have too high expectations for FreeBSD, probably.
You are right I guess, but all this talk about system auto-tuning
for high capacity systems has not progressed to reality, as far as I
know. The talk comes up occasionally and after some discussion about
the benefits of such auto-tuning, dies off. Lack of manpower I
guess, so I shut up. But that's the point why I made the
"enterprise" comment.
-- 

Vallo Kallaste

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