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Date:      Thu, 27 Jun 2019 23:09:57 -0700
From:      Frank Fenderbender <frankfenderbender@council124.org>
To:        freebsd01@dgmm.net
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: query re: dual-boot on two separate HDDs
Message-ID:  <37655A7A-FD94-42C2-AC53-6F6EC7F2F38E@council124.org>
In-Reply-To: <5146512.8gLySxXtyI@amd.asgard.uk>
References:  <BEEA802E-BBA6-4327-A6CD-12A2BC059103@council124.org> <5146512.8gLySxXtyI@amd.asgard.uk>

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Thanks Dave.

The methods I used on the older BIOSes (for boot sequence re-ordering) =
on HP/Dell systems no longer works with the UEFI-based BIOS that new =
DEll system deploy.
It's like when I could no longer work on my car w/o factory- and =
dealership-only tools.
There is a push to make working on your own computer "off limits", as =
noted in emails I received from by FreeGeek.org (Portland, OR) in their =
"Right to Repair Campaign" (https://repair.org/stand-up).=20
FreeGeek converts donated PCs (and components) to minimum-leveled =
Debian-based systems and sells them for $50, donates them to free-access =
busineses, and gives them to people who volunteer 20-hours for work in =
one or more phases of the whole process.=20

I do not know if this is one of those cases, but the result is the same =
when documentation does not explain workarounds.
If the goal is security, then telling a workaround defeats the securing, =
right?
However, if the change makes purchased system owners insecure, well, =
then, I'd say that that had inadequate QA, Beta testing, and =
owner-viewable documentation. Whatever, it is an unnecessary barrier to =
what once was working and easy to achieve. Just what is being secured? =
Is me actually using "my" system considered a security breach or threat?=20=


Anyway, the F5, F11, and F12 keys now all go to an EUFI-secured BIOS =
that has hard-to-enable (disabled) "legacy" BIOS optioning ROMs.
Even following the cyber-acorns of some who claim success, the process =
gets messed-with by the default UEFI ROMs, which, prevent both USB and =
disk boot-ups. The mindfulness of this "securing" is  not very =
well-documented by Dell, and so, it will take some support-call research =
to discover the currently-secret success at adding a second OS to either =
the same or a second internal or external HD.

thanks again,
chris

On 26-June-2019, at 06:32 AM, Dave wrote:

> On Wednesday, 26 June 2019 04:48:59 BST Frank Fenderbender wrote:
>> I am adding the FreeBSD 12 install to the 2nd hard drive.
>> Often, the dual-boot instructions appear to be for a same-drive, =
different partition configuration.
>> I give each OS its own [whole] drive, in an attempt to assist in the =
avoidance of segmentation faults, corruptions, performance hits, and the =
like, often used by data, applications, and OS slam-dancing, as in a =
crowded "mosh pit".
>>=20
>> So, with many well-meaning ways to botch this, I thought maybe =
someone had performed a similar sequence of steps that:
>>        adds FreeBSD to a second drive
>>        edits the GRUB/bootloader cfg file(s)
>>=20
>> I am uncertain if Grub gets called by the BIOS call to the =
bootloader, and so, is specific to Ubuntu?
>> I would expect it to be dealing with partition choices on one drive, =
rather than stipulating starting a boot on another drive.=20
>=20
> Since it's going to involve a keypress or two anyway, a quick'n'dirty =
"fix might be to use the BIOS boot menu, usually accessed from a Fn key =
at boot time when the BIOS logo/info screen is displayed.
>=20
>=20
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Frank
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