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Date:      Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:45:59 +0100
From:      Alex de Kruijff <freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl>
To:        Greg Pavelcak <g.pavelcak@comcast.net>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: How do hackers drive?
Message-ID:  <20031123164558.GB557@dds.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20031101205412.GA15226@bishop.my.domain>
References:  <3FA301F6.2010208@potentialtech.com> <20031101175942.GA2082@online.fr> <20031101205412.GA15226@bishop.my.domain>

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On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 03:54:12PM -0500, Greg Pavelcak wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 12:59:42PM -0500, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
> > Bill Moran wrote:
> > > I've always had a uncomfortable feeling in the pit of my stomach that C++
> > > and other OO languages were more complicated than they needed to be. 
> > 
> > I could never get figure out C++, the syntax was too complex for me,
> > maybe I never approached it the right way.  (Same problem with perl.)
> > 
> > On the other hand, a few months ago I tried out python and it was love
> > at first sight.  Initially I was writing stuff in a procedural way but
> > I'm beginning to grok OO ideas now and it seems to all just make sense.
> > I wish there was a good compiler for it though, speed is important in a
> > lot of the things I do.  Subsequently, I also dabbled in lisp a bit,
> > does anyone use it these days for serious new projects (as opposed to
> > emacs/maxima/other ancient stuff)?
> > 
> > Quoted on http://www.smalltalk.org :
> > 
> >   "I invented the term Object-Oriented, and I can tell you I did not have
> >   C++ in mind."  - Alan Kay
> > 
> > - Rahul
> 
> I'm a non-programmer. Is it the OO languages that talk about
> "methods" when it looks like they're talking about something like
> functions, or is that something else?

You are correct. In OO languages the function and data are one unit
where as in the the traditional programma there are seperate.

-- 
Alex

Articles based on solutions that I use:
http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/



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