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Date:      Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:44:20 -0500
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        Antony Mawer <fbsd-arch@mawer.org>
Cc:        Max Laier <max@love2party.net>, "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: BSDStats - What is involved ... ?
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On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:19:56PM +1000, Antony Mawer wrote:
> On 29/08/2006 11:53 AM, Brooks Davis wrote:
> >On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:39:23AM +1000, Antony Mawer wrote:
> >>Perhaps aggregate submissions could be conducted using a registration=
=20
> >>mechanism...
> >>
> >>Other thoughts would be having a local stats aggregation server that=20
> >>pushes summaries up to the master server... the aggregation server keep=
s=20
> >>the individual details, and some sort of challenge mechanism could be=
=20
> >>randomly selected by the master server to reduce the ease with which th=
e=20
> >>numbers can be 'faked'?
> >
> >I'd prefer not to expose host names or IP addresses, hardware
> >information and OS version aren't really a problem if they can't be
> >traced to a host name.  The requirement to register an aggregation
> >server would be fine with me.  A challenge mechanism would be tricky
> >because it would have to occur during a push to the central server since
> >connects back are not really possible.
>=20
> The version 3 update did away with the storing of hostnames and IP=20
> addresses on the server side, as well as the submission of them by the=20
> client. So you're only exposing the public Internet address of the=20
> system during the submission of data, which is not stored in the database.
>=20
> The client "push" mechanism would have to know how to handle any=20
> challenges it received from the server and submit the appropriate respons=
e.
>=20
> Perhaps a new port, sysutils/bsdstats-relay/, could allow easy=20
> installation of some sort of aggregation server... but then you have the=
=20
> issue of requiring things like a web server, some form of database, etc=
=20
> -- vs the simple nature of the client itself that is just a shell script.=
=2E.

That wouldn't be a big deal.  We've got lots of B(L)AMP applications
running and plenty of FreeBSD servers to run them on.  That might be an
option for me.

-- Brooks

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