Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:06:53 -0400 From: Jon Radel <jon@radel.com> To: Randi Harper <randi@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / almost out of space just after installation Message-ID: <4ACEE10D.4070201@radel.com> In-Reply-To: <e277d6c80910082339m229ecd6bqfbadd12a6fb7f116@mail.gmail.com> References: <200910071110.n97BANiE012861@lurza.secnetix.de> <4acd9c98.Mf06e1KlRm%2BblPrD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <e277d6c80910082339m229ecd6bqfbadd12a6fb7f116@mail.gmail.com>
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This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040608000605040902010701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randi Harper wrote: > I was thinking that a more acceptable default layout (leaving swap at it's > current default size) would be: > > / = 1GB > /var = 2GB > /tmp = 2GB > > One thing to remember is that these are just suggested defaults. Most > experienced users are going to use a custom layout when setting up a new > server, so the goal here is to have partition sizes that work for everyone > else. Although FreeBSD does work on older hardware, I'd guess that most of > the hardware it is being installed on now is less than 10 years old. The > defaults we currently have in place are outdated. They are targeted more for > older systems, perhaps because sysinstall hasn't been touched in quite a > while. > > I'm looking for community input on this, so feel free to pipe up with your > $.02. I believe it's been years since I didn't bump up the sizes on an install, otherwise I just end up with all this space where it's least likely to save me from a filled disk in the future. While I am actually running some hardware that is over 10 years old with FreeBSD, quite happily, every single hard drive involved has been replaced due to failure or as a preventative measure. You just can't get general purpose disks that small anymore....I'd think that assuming everyone had at least 10 GB disks at this point would be reasonable. I'm all for increased defaults. -- --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms040608000605040902010701 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJMTCC AvMwggJcoAMCAQICEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHiAbwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDIyNTA0MTMyNloX DTEwMDIyNTA0MTMyNlowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9tYXMx GTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDeT7qtj+euqWr2wXM7OnwrXJe9 Jlc0CGaM69AcTWOFakRY7MUXrqcmF5WjrqrMoagfGjS362eb6787x313ZdLoGuQPh/o2Mqp4 BbSgcnGZRj82SxkUmSN6+2q5ZOOYA6JmfvJwmBuRQ8sHki4GnoSwbIc11a70/z4at5qRi8bb /RtmJYewnpwXErfuuq0hhVSsYKFPXELzSahlpyC+lUfIdgvLJGxc7eU5QuvtYmuohNjn4k9C SJinvfjFbkvgbIgtvZxxmcE74NsKTeW2bEwgoCjZlcAD/QMgLE9KGSVn4/LzC/OZwkPKcWKO CPTNIZK1P+HxaIW4BvvYtjLu2Qx5AgMBAAGjKjAoMBgGA1UdEQQRMA+BDWpvbkByYWRlbC5j b20wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBT+qFXV8sexrNOJuK8rhVpnCNF iFslD9Kelhon5Tt1tlTsw+B9F9B8ys9tfV559tzVqE+ULcqnjX2rsaJCwFmn6gyucCN0yGML h1O4ddsNQmoTOILyBCv/rkfO4tbXJM3si2JDNPZnL/0Rf3FpDTc3U3SnAdqE1a/8PGBTTmay VDCCAvMwggJcoAMCAQICEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHiAbwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkG A1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNV BAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDIyNTA0MTMy NloXDTEwMDIyNTA0MTMyNlowXjEOMAwGA1UEBBMFUmFkZWwxEzARBgNVBCoTCkpvbiBUaG9t YXMxGTAXBgNVBAMTEEpvbiBUaG9tYXMgUmFkZWwxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDWpvbkByYWRl bC5jb20wggEiMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4IBDwAwggEKAoIBAQDeT7qtj+euqWr2wXM7Onwr XJe9Jlc0CGaM69AcTWOFakRY7MUXrqcmF5WjrqrMoagfGjS362eb6787x313ZdLoGuQPh/o2 Mqp4BbSgcnGZRj82SxkUmSN6+2q5ZOOYA6JmfvJwmBuRQ8sHki4GnoSwbIc11a70/z4at5qR i8bb/RtmJYewnpwXErfuuq0hhVSsYKFPXELzSahlpyC+lUfIdgvLJGxc7eU5QuvtYmuohNjn 4k9CSJinvfjFbkvgbIgtvZxxmcE74NsKTeW2bEwgoCjZlcAD/QMgLE9KGSVn4/LzC/OZwkPK cWKOCPTNIZK1P+HxaIW4BvvYtjLu2Qx5AgMBAAGjKjAoMBgGA1UdEQQRMA+BDWpvbkByYWRl bC5jb20wDAYDVR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQBT+qFXV8sexrNOJuK8rhVp nCNFiFslD9Kelhon5Tt1tlTsw+B9F9B8ys9tfV559tzVqE+ULcqnjX2rsaJCwFmn6gyucCN0 yGMLh1O4ddsNQmoTOILyBCv/rkfO4tbXJM3si2JDNPZnL/0Rf3FpDTc3U3SnAdqE1a/8PGBT TmayVDCCAz8wggKooAMCAQICAQ0wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUw EwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxEjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhh d3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsTH0NlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNp b24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJ ARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNvbTAeFw0wMzA3MTcwMDAwMDBaFw0xMzA3 MTYyMzU5NTlaMGIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAo UHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBD QTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAxKY8VXNV+065yplaHmjAdQRwnd/p/6Me 7L3N9VvyGna9fww6YfK/Uc4B1OVQCjDXAmNaLIkVcI7dyfArhVqqP3FWy688Cwfn8R+RNiQq E88r1fOCdz0Dviv+uxg+B79AgAJk16emu59l0cUqVIUPSAR/p7bRPGEEQB5kGXJgt/sCAwEA AaOBlDCBkTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMEMGA1UdHwQ8MDowOKA2oDSGMmh0dHA6Ly9j cmwudGhhd3RlLmNvbS9UaGF3dGVQZXJzb25hbEZyZWVtYWlsQ0EuY3JsMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIB BjApBgNVHREEIjAgpB4wHDEaMBgGA1UEAxMRUHJpdmF0ZUxhYmVsMi0xMzgwDQYJKoZIhvcN AQEFBQADgYEASIzRUIPqCy7MDaNmrGcPf6+svsIXoUOWlJ1/TCG4+DYfqi2fNi/A9BxQIJNw PP2t4WFiw9k6GX6EsZkbAMUaC4J0niVQlGLH2ydxVyWN3amcOY6MIE9lX5Xa9/eH1sYITq72 6jTlEBpbNU1341YheILcIRk13iSx0x1G/11fZU8xggNkMIIDYAIBATB2MGIxCzAJBgNVBAYT AlpBMSUwIwYDVQQKExxUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZyAoUHR5KSBMdGQuMSwwKgYDVQQDEyNU aGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgSXNzdWluZyBDQQIQHV4N5VjGEA7f3M4SceIBvDAJ BgUrDgMCGgUAoIIBwzAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3DQEJBTEP Fw0wOTEwMDkwNzA2NTNaMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJBDEWBBRyoqZnjqfR4cmfPagg7alIOUzDjzBS BgkqhkiG9w0BCQ8xRTBDMAoGCCqGSIb3DQMHMA4GCCqGSIb3DQMCAgIAgDANBggqhkiG9w0D AgIBQDAHBgUrDgMCBzANBggqhkiG9w0DAgIBKDCBhQYJKwYBBAGCNxAEMXgwdjBiMQswCQYD VQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UE AxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHi AbwwgYcGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAILMXigdjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3Rl IENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEB1eDeVYxhAO39zOEnHiAbwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEggEAcMbi rYlyhDRyeiYR6KMkDGavq7J4yCMm+WzyBtfwBKPTmz81ZStOSCroPxZdtqitFxn3OkJRdmI3 gMCj5LLxezH5/AOp65f1uLh4Tv1tbNbrVj7Xds5FtQoplqrv+gm65QSnK/+tOz8EBP2Yp4Z0 XZv6IVEdEWq9xTmJ8FCNPjeV4Es0nDuQL2m2ku/ia559Jth/Kpg/2dfkwl0TH2WTvU8hFHBx B/57DbN5MWN8EqGI8VDN8oQJfcv08hJXvuYGdn/jJHPyY051lWMLzyPPIppwU/ctzvPEI7Q6 0YoUfje6SKDou12tzbj68gxhUli77mPW1JzYriZhT5m3Nl+5dgAAAAAAAA== --------------ms040608000605040902010701--
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