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Date:      Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:37:29 -0700 (MST)
From:      Fred Clift <fclift@verio.net>
To:        Andrew Gallatin <gallatin@cs.duke.edu>
Cc:        Fred Clift <fclift@verio.net>, <alpha@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP, floppy installs desupported for 5.0
Message-ID:  <20021101151718.U7968-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net>
In-Reply-To: <15810.64745.425793.33748@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>

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On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote:

> One cannot make an alpha kernel fit on a floppy alongside the loader
> unless one removes nearly all drivers (including disk drivers), NFS,
> IPV6, etc,etc.

I'm probably mistaken, but dont most people not use IPV6 or NFS for
booting?  I can see how the disk drivers would be necessary :).

I'm doing my own empirical tests with a somewhat purged GENERIC kernel
right now - dont get me wrong -- I believe that it's hard, but well,
shrug.

So are there other options for building the floppy? like I see all the
'platform' options

e.g.

options         DEC_ST550               # Personal Workstation 433, 500, 600

Does this platform code take up a lot of space?  10 or 12 different floppy
images could be made, each with support for only one platform for
intace...

I'm not totally familiar with the boot-system and how install floppies are
put together, but could many of the drivers be loaded as modules from
another floppy?


On the other hand, I'm not _that_ attached to floppy boots -- I can live
without them, but it will be a hassle for me upon next install -- I have
neither floppy nor CD rom right now...


>  >
>  > Are there other options?

> Netbooting.

So how does netbooting work on alphas?  Is there somewhere I can go read
about it?


Fred

--
Fred Clift - fclift@verio.net -- Remember: If brute
force doesn't work, you're just not using enough.



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