Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:14:09 +0100 From: Tomasz CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info> To: "Joe A." <freebsd@chthonixia.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life Message-ID: <CAFYkXjkJoyh-n%2BXhAi%2B7WLRWgfZRzta9v=vSduqF=DdKABz=cg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20200221055139.GA969@ghostyhead.chthonixia.net> References: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> <CAFYkXjmZi1-MB6W0HsMx9gHek7Xg5heoSKKWkNTnw74dxRTwAw@mail.gmail.com> <ead08f6c-3dc4-210d-b321-549eb0ad721f@malikania.fr> <20200220154101.GA53326@ghostyhead.chthonixia.net> <CAFYkXjnKO2ayKjh4KKTL1y_rcMbF62CePMcG=Z3KVtptU%2BUGPQ@mail.gmail.com> <20200221010421.GA54290@ghostyhead.chthonixia.net> <CAFYkXjnJvfBi68Zg6gf8Jr3n4O9C=F3pM8rbHDGKcbmQE2DUMw@mail.gmail.com> <20200221055139.GA969@ghostyhead.chthonixia.net>
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On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 6:52 AM Joe A. <freebsd@chthonixia.net> wrote: > Had I my preferences, I'd run AMD Radeon also. But I had such issues with > the Radeon APUs that I just decided to go with the Nvidia, at least until > things sorted between AMD and FreeBSD. Not that anyone is at fault nor that > the volunteers don't do what is needed; it's just that many things are > changing. This is exactly the reason why I have switched from nVidia to AMD RADEON and planning no return!! Because nVidia does not provide documentation nor support to Open-Source, only binary blobs, you start to think that their drivers are the best because "they just work"^TM. Nothing more misleading! nVidia seems to have no respect in the Open-Source community. I was also astonished with that being their 20 years long loyal customer. When you look at the true Open-Source drivers, you will notice they are poor and you cannot really do anything more with nVidia than just display. While GPU nowadays is the most powerful computation unit out there you can get for the money you can afford.. and you can make no use of it :-( Open-Source RADEON drivers in general are by some considered even better than binary blobs provided by AMD. Here comes the development of DRM layer that is something brand new in FreeBSD that will support all new GPU in a truly Open-Source fashion (but hey where does that firmware comes from??). This will also provide OpenCL access. This is _very_ important and worth the price to wait/help/test :-) I am just really scared that DRM here in FreeBSD may be implemented in a "Linux way" where its API/ABI changes from release to release. This already happened and touched the surface during 12.0 -> 12.1 switch. I truly hope it will never happen again. I remember this situation in Linux back then around 2.4.10 kernel and that was the definitive moment when I totally stopped using Linux and started deliberately avoiding it. -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
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