Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 16:49:02 -0500 From: Stephen Perry <j.stephen.perry@gmail.com> To: Poppy Faria <cenu00@yandex.com> Cc: Randi Harper <randi@freebsdgirl.com>, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no>, Johannes Jost Meixner <johannes@meixner.dk>, "advocacy@freebsd.org" <advocacy@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct... Message-ID: <BFA778C0-37A2-402C-B681-CE96E01B8106@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2272121437082673@web9g.yandex.ru> References: <55A647EE.4080504@meixner.dk> <864ml44hki.fsf@nine.des.no> <CAM9wqY-CMLZYBHQeKr%2BRfChxGru339BYiyR3d4HAd=Gizno%2BPA@mail.gmail.com> <2272121437082673@web9g.yandex.ru>
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Very reasonable actually. If I keep getting this kind of crap from this mail= ing list I'm going to withdraw from it and cease any personal advocacy for Fre= eBSD going forward through social media and professional contacts. On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Poppy Faria <cenu00@yandex.com> wrote: If having a code of conduct means that all of this nonsense will stop, then I= 'm in favor. However, I disagree with the idea of there being a code of cond= uct based on any political ideologies instead of an agreed upon fabric of mo= ral and ethical decency. But seriously guys, please stop. I'm tire of getting notifications on my pho= ne every five minutes just because a bunch of people have horrible and taste= less accusations to throw at eachother. Everyone, please, just stop it. I th= ink I'm being reasonable here. 16.07.2015, 21:29, "Randi Harper" <randi@freebsdgirl.com>: >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav <des@des.no> wr= ote: >>=20 >> Johannes Jost Meixner <johannes@meixner.dk> writes: >> > I - as a male - feel not only not tolerated, but also discriminated >> > against, >>=20 >> There are approximately 400 active committers, and not even five of >> those are women. How the *hell* can you claim to be discriminated >> against when you are part of a 99% majority? >=20 > It's all tacky to have this on the mailing list, and it's all part of his > campaign for what he thinks is going to work, because he knows I was asked= > by core to keep things quiet. He's continuing to target and harass women, > however, myself included. This will be my single post on the matter on thi= s > mailing list, because this is not the right place to air FreeBSD's dirty > laundry, despite him repeatedly trying. >=20 > A few days ago, a tweet was brought to the attention of my org. It was som= e > MRA/PUA/super racist guy, although I hadn't heard of him before that night= . > He had posted a picture of a black boy child getting raped along with a > snarky statement. We focus more on dev policies and mitigation techniques.= > This was an extreme case, however. We responded, and this person's account= > was quickly suspended, as was one of his friends, who commented "boys will= > be boys". This guy was furious and started directing a stream of vitriol a= t > me from his blog, to which Johannes decided to contribute because he's mad= e > it his mission to seek out abusive people and drive them to further > harassment. This is who he's siding with. This is what he's contributing. >=20 > The "male tears" comment wasn't even in relation to Johannes, but instead a= > reddit thread, which he decided to crop out of the images. In this thread,= > several people from GamerGate and people outside the project had started > posting about SJWs and bigotry before it was eventually moderated by > cperciva@. However, he's very determined to find fault in anything I say > and find a way to direct it at himself. He's annoying, and he's been > threatening me and constantly trying to stir up a mob, with little success= . > Shockingly, my software works at blocking out the mobs. Weird, huh? >=20 > Maybe if I could spend less time writing software to mitigate harassment, I= > could spend time contributing to FreeBSD again. Unfortunately, internet > culture is what it is, and it takes time to change, one company or open > source project at a time. I wish I could say that I'm shocked that people > would object to a Code of Conduct as Johannes did several times - very > loudly - but I'm really not. People dislike change, especially cultural > change that challenges their social position. It's understandable. However= , > women make up less than 2% of open source developers. FreeBSD falls below > the average. If the project wants to change that, the environment needs to= > be made more welcoming to women. Right now, it's not, which is made very > clear by this mailing list discussion. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " _______________________________________________ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=
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