Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:41:04 +0100 From: "Andre Goeree" <abgoeree@uwnet.nl> To: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM was: (OT: [REJECTED MAIL]????????) Message-ID: <20010222104104.A36094@mandark.attica.home> In-Reply-To: <14996.17748.832610.157775@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 04:46:44PM -0600 References: <20010220230057.A57762@mandark.attica.home> <14994.61220.340488.445773@guru.mired.org> <20010221111149.D929@mandark.attica.home> <14996.17748.832610.157775@guru.mired.org>
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On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 04:46:44PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > Andre Goeree <abgoeree@uwnet.nl> types: > > > Rather than install a filter, get a good automated complaint system, > > > and add a "complain" button to your mailer. If you do it often enough, > > > you'll get your address on the "complains about spam" blacklist, which > > > will start killill the spam at the source. That's a lot better than > > > killing it after it's gotten to your system. > > Is there a "complaints about SPAM" blacklist? I didn't know that. > > Sounds like a list i want to get on:) > > Would mail/adcomplain do the trick? > > Well, some of the SPAM packages/sites (those that help produce it, not > those that help fight it) have lists of email addresses that are known > to generate complaints if you spam them. Sounds good to me, but it's actually the world up side down ;-) There should be a list where you have to be on if you want to receive SPAM, not if you don't want it... I already see SPAM messages like "if you don't want receive this JUNK register your address at ...." I believe this is yet another trick to get the real address :-( First my snailmail, next my phone, now my email, what's going to be spammed next? > > > Hmm, sometimes i get spammed via mailing lists. I can only > > guess that the spammers don't have my direct mail address, > > but reacting to these messages would give them the address for sure... > > Well, they may have it and some filter is getting it. On the other > hand, I sometimes see the same spam multiple times - to both one of my > mail addresses and to one or more of the lists I subscribe to. > Yes, and a lot of mailing lists are "public" what AFAIK means that anybody can get a list of who's on it. Here where i live (the netherlands) i even heard of people getting PAID for each valid email address they report, can you believe that? > > > I always wonder what would happen if some popular mailer turned up > > > with a "Complain about SPAM" button. I suspect it would be more > > > effective at getting rid of SPAM than all the filters and blocks put > > > together. > > That sure sounds like a good default feature:) > > Yeah, but considering how active MS is about fixing - or even advising > people - about what a security hole ActiveX and JavaScript are, I > wouldn't expect it to happen. > Now, who wants to talk about M$? (just kidding). No, i don't think they really care about their customers, i think they're only interested in buck$ and how to get the most of them in the shortest possible time... But, as we all (except the die-hard Windozers) know: There is a much better OS and it's *free*, updated daily, always has the latest security/bug-fixes, very good technical support, runs rock solid, runs faster with every update (or am i fooling myself?) and above all: it has the power to serve :-) Oh, and i forgot, it's even *fun* to talk about :-) Notice i changed the subject, it sounds a bit more appropriate;-) (and i believe everybody already has my address now so there's no need to mention it in the subject anymore ;-) -- Andre. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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