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Date:      Mon, 17 May 2021 04:44:04 +0000
From:      "Thomas Mueller" <mueller6722@twc.com>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4
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> No real favorites. In emergencies I tend to pick up the telephone.
        
> This doesn't seem like an emergency, and in any case the phone is a poor
> medium for a problem like this. There are some ports under /usr/ports/irc,
> if you have suggestions I could try one or more. If a phone call is useful,
> my number is 530 753 2005, California PDT. The answering machine screens
> calls, I pick up if I recognize the caller's message. I can return calls
> anywhere in the lower 48.

> It's important to remember that even if the comms delay is zero my comprehension
> delay is much greater than zero. Sometimes infinite. That's apt to either bore or
> frustrate experts.

> Mark Millard is trying to give me an inkling of how poudriere works. It's a stunningly
> complex process, apparently approximating individual virtual hosts compiling each port.
> I'd like to see the ports system keep working as it has in the past, but that seemingly
> requires a kind of machine intelligence that hasn't evolved yet. Poudriere seems like
> a brute force approach. Persuading ports (and porters) to cooperate is more efficient
> if it's possible.

> Thanks for reading, and any thoughts you might have!

> bob prohaska

I've been thinking about what to use to build FreeBSD ports, if I go ahead and build FreeBSD 13.0-STABLE or -current: portmaster, poudriere (I am reluctant), synth (seems to have fallen out of favor), or NetBSD pkgsrc.

I don't like the dialog4ports, and much prefer the way NetBSD pkgsrc or Gentoo Linux portage keep the options in /etc/mk.conf or /etc/make.conf .

I haven't updated FreeBSD since May 2019 because of troubles with network connectivity in releng-12 and 13 (May 2019), though that may possibly be better now.

My question, Bob, is, if you are dissatisfied with poudriere, what do you use for FreeBSD ports?

Tom




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