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Date:      Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:29:31 -0700
From:      Jos Backus <jos@catnook.com>
To:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Package system flaws?
Message-ID:  <20020715162953.GA12030@lizzy.catnook.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020714181408.GB420@laurel.tmseck.homedns.org>
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On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:14:08PM +0200, Thomas Seck wrote:
> I think it is good not to have everyones' favourite scripting language in
> the base system.

I agree. Nowhere did I say we should include all of them (that's what the
ports system is for). I'm saying that the current set of tools in the base is
limiting. Unless of course you _define_ the base to consist only of these
tools. We should pick one that has a reasonable chance of being able to be
supported in the base and stick with it. Perl had build and packaging issues
which made it a nightmare to support, fine, so let's pick another one that
does a better job than awk/sh/etc. The problems were not with the fact that
having a powerful scripting language in the base OS is necessarily bad but
with its implementation in FreeBSD.

> And VBA is not part of Windows(tm) by the way.

Depends on your definition of "Windows", so I'm not going to argue this one.
Suffice it to say that a well-supported scripting language is a Good Thing.

> No one stops you from doing (cd /usr/ports/lang/ruby && make install).

Of course.

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