Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:28:13 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille <marc@blackend.org> To: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> Subject: Re: Backup Chapter Updates Message-ID: <20030910072813.GA573@nosferatu.blackend.org> Resent-Message-ID: <200309101901.h8AJ1MSv002517@nosferatu.blackend.org> In-Reply-To: <20030909191117.H68939@wonkity.com> References: <20030909191117.H68939@wonkity.com>
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On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 07:31:09PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: > Browsing through the Backup chapter today, I saw the script for > generating a bootable floppy. > > Problem #1: the kernel config file shown has quite a bit of obsolete > stuff. > > Problem #2: okay, how about manually trimming everything possible out of > the 4.8 GENERIC kernel config file? It turns out that trimming it down > to fit on the approximate 273K of free space on a 1.4M floppy is > impossible. > It's possible to create a 1.4MB floppy for the backup purpose. > The questions: > > If current releases of FreeBSD (4/5) will only fit on a rare 2.8M > floppy, is it worth updating that section of the Backup chapter rather > than removing it? > You talk about GENERIC kernels and so, in a backup case, no one needs a GENERIC kernel. I have the update of that part in my (long) TODO list :)) > El Torito bootable CDs can use a 2.8M floppy image; should the script > and instructions be modified to produce such an image, and just forget > floppies? > The live CD (CD #2) is there for that, but I don't think "forget" floppies is a good idea cause when a problem occurs, it's still faster and easier to write a floppy in many cases. > Instructions on building a bootable recovery disk seem a little out of > place in the Backup chapter anyway. Hmm why? Backups also exist for the case a bad thing happens, so some instructions about recovery is not out of context. > Bootable CDs and LiveCDs have been > a topic of discussion on -questions, too. Is there a more appropriate > place for this type of material, or is the subject worthy of a chapter > by itself? Off-hand, I can think of a bunch of URLs that could be > included in such a chapter: FreeSBIE, the original Brazilian LiveCD, > MiniBSD, and some of the other small installs meant for embedded > Soekris-type use. But what do you call such a chapter? "Minimizing > FreeBSD", maybe? > It's a very technical thing, and a livecd (most of people see it as a Knoppix clone) is really different from a "reduced system" on many points. About small installations, some knobs have been added to the "world" but building a system for an embedded system is still difficult (asks for a good knowledge of FreeBSD), a lot of ways are possible. For example I use a custom PicoBSD with my soekris board, some others use in part rescue system, etc. So I'm not sure the Handbook would be the right place for this. A good (large) article would be perhaps a good thing. However, if it's just a question of adding URLs, the FAQ would be the right place. Marc
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