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Date:      Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:57:36 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Threading/KSE problem
Message-ID:  <20050921205736.GA31449@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <200509211645.36060.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.43.0509201446510.9634-100000@sea.ntplx.net> <200509211645.36060.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:45:34PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 September 2005 02:55 pm, Daniel Eischen wrote:
> > I don't think anyone thinks that.  But I prefer the old way.  If we're
> > not properly keeping track of our ABI changes and what they affect,
> > then let's work on that problem.  Symbol versioning isn't going to
> > solve that for us anyways.
>=20
> Yes, symbol versioning requires the same level of discipline as the more=
=20
> constrained library version number bumping.  If we have decided that our=
=20
> developers are too incompetent to properly bump library versions for ABI=
=20
> changes then they are also too incompetent to handle symbol versioning. =
=20
> Furthermore, even with the massive library bumps, we have still stuck our=
=20
> collective heads in the sand and ignored all the port library version=20
> numbers.  In theory they should all be bumped for 5 -> 6 as well.

Which is impossible to do since it's a 1-dimensional space and the
upstream vendors are likely to bump their version next week anyway.

Kris
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