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Date:      Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:01:41 +0200
From:      Martin Tournoij <carpetsmoker@rwxrwxrwx.net>
To:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Stop Adobe Flash Petition
Message-ID:  <20080626120141.GA28507@rwxrwxrwx.net>
In-Reply-To: <20080626132847.abf4caa680k0wwgg@0x20.net>
References:  <20080626103955.GA28128@rwxrwxrwx.net> <20080626132847.abf4caa680k0wwgg@0x20.net>

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On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 01:28:47PM +0200, Lars Engels wrote:
> Quoting Martin Tournoij <carpetsmoker@rwxrwxrwx.net>:
> 
>> Sign it here:
>> 
>> http://www.petitiononline.com/0034655a/petition.html
>>  [..snip..]
>>
> 
> While I totally agree to the above statements, tell me the sense of an 
> online petition. Do you know a single petition that changed _anything_?
> The petition is adressed "Web Designers". How should they get aware of the 
> petition?

Of course it won't cause a paradigm shift, but it can be used to show
that many people/users are not at all impressed but annoyed with
"sleak" flash sites, which might just be enough to convince a few
people/sites.

Even if only manages to convince a few people .. Is it not worth your
20 seconds?

> You cannot change the internet with that. Every big commercial site has 
> flash. It's colorful, it's loud, it attracts the people to their products. 
> So you won't convince the webmaster of these sites to change.

Actually, that's not true, big commercial sites are usable because
more usability == more profit, and since flash != usable, flash ==
less profit.

Big sites like Amazon, Ebay, Google, Yahoo, etc. are all relatively
simple websites, it's true that quite a few websites from big
companies who's core business is not internet use flash, but this not
in those companies best interest either because usability == profit
etc.
I'm not sure why so many sites from big companies use flash, maybe
it's some bigshot suit who thinks he knows best or something...

-- 
Martin Tournoij
carpetsmoker@rwxrwxrwx.net
http://www.daemonforums.org

QOTD:
The mosquito exists to keep the mighty humble.



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