Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 03:31:06 +0300 From: Greg V <greg@unrelenting.technology> To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>, George Mitchell <george+freebsd@m5p.com> Cc: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>,Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE and 11.2-RELEASE images fail to boot on BeagleBone Black Message-ID: <1A010154-D48C-43B2-8F7B-71C85D34577C@unrelenting.technology> In-Reply-To: <20190715200456.6d64e3b9297ca0f54ffc0577@bidouilliste.com> References: <8352f841-0522-9f45-148d-d2948e97857e@gmail.com> <20190713152404.GJ1503@dendrobates> <b6876ce7-5147-5f1a-d712-3515e124cd36@gmail.com> <6b3dcec02b425a8559605b4e6c5ada19ee642728.camel@freebsd.org> <20190713194256.GK1503@dendrobates> <85e35455-793a-84fe-c8cf-39b89ade7c11@gmail.com> <900bc3467c7e28f58e8e6cf17e881bdefcb3b751.camel@freebsd.org> <20190714174432.GC26897@lonesome.com> <e43cb386-b1db-9cc0-1132-1ae9b2994344@m5p.com> <20190715200456.6d64e3b9297ca0f54ffc0577@bidouilliste.com>
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On July 15, 2019 9:04:56 PM GMT+03:00, Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste=2E= com> wrote: >On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 14:41:46 -0400 >George Mitchell <george+freebsd@m5p=2Ecom> wrote: > >> On 2019-07-14 13:44, Mark Linimon wrote: >> > On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 10:04:30AM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote: >> >> [=2E=2E=2E] Two or three years ago it looked like arm was at the poi= nt >where it >> >> should be a tier-1 platform, and I put a lot of effort into things >like >> >> testing releases, because releases that actually work seem like an >> >> important thing for a tier-1 platform=2E=20 >> >=20 >> > I will have to admit ignorance of the past history, so I can't >address >> > what went wrong there=2E >> >=20 >> > But my own view as a very casual user of arm is this: >> >=20 >> > - we need more people doing testing (both releases and snapshots), >and >> > reporting the results=2E >> >=20 >> > - we need to be better about gathering that information together=2E >> > [=2E=2E=2E] >>=20 >> Both of you are right=2E But despite my own forlorn hope a few years >back >> that ARM would become a fully-fledged Tier 1 platform, the >fragmentation >> of the market has made it impossible=2E But I still hope that maybe >three >> or four widely popular ARM boards (Raspberry Pi being the most >obvious >> possibility) might individually be declared Tier 1=2E -- >George >>=20 > >If we promote an ARM board to tier-1 this will never be one of the RPI=2E > None of the active ARM FreeBSD developper works on it (and don't >really want to as the board and the docs just sucks)=2E > Just go with Allwinner or IMX6 based board and you will be good=2E I would expect generic ACPI "SBSA-ish" aarch64 to be promoted to tier-1 be= fore any of the embedded stuff=2E=2E
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