Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:13:27 +0100 From: Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.homeip.net> To: Jeff Lasman <jblists@nobaloney.net> Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://users.uk.freebsd.org/~juha/ Message-ID: <20020311121326.B403@energyhq.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <3C8BEE50.4781D191@nobaloney.net>; from jblists@nobaloney.net on Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 03:37:52PM -0800 References: <15494.52528.125952.145716@guru.mired.org> <3C86D7D6.C11D7E@mindspring.com> <15494.58407.33613.314390@guru.mired.org> <8457986570.20020307135407@internethelp.ru> <15495.57385.993281.469551@guru.mired.org> <20020308113108.G32897@iconoplex.co.uk> <15497.12783.643757.175742@guru.mired.org> <20020309144158.K32897@iconoplex.co.uk> <20020309164039.A89088@energyhq.homeip.net> <3C8BEE50.4781D191@nobaloney.net>
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On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 03:37:52PM -0800, Jeff Lasman wrote:
> > read man pages and compile a couple programs to learn about 64bit'isms.
> > I don't think I'm a criminal for that.
>=20
> It's not what you think so much as what the local District Attorney
> thinks.
Well, I'm not USian, and to be honest I'm not up to date of the current
hacking laws in Spain. Back when that happened (1996) there wasn't a
clearly defined law about that matters AFAIK.
> So let me unerstand your rationalization: Because Cadillac didn't give
> you a new Elantra, it's okay to borrow the one owned by the old couple
> down the street, as long as you only borrow it when they're not using it
> 'cause they're asleep, and as long as you return it when you're done?
Jeff, having arguments about these subjects is hardly ever useful. I'm
not going to change my mind, and you're not going to. I find all these
house/cars analogies to be flawed. If I used my neighbours' car, the
cost would be measurable, gasoline, tires, etc. IMHO accessing a computer
system is somewhat different. Had I done any damage on those systems I'd
understand it being a bad thing, but I never touched anything, nor read
email or stuff like that. My aim was to learn about those systems, not
disturb people. I even notified the admins of those flaws in their
systems. It's my way of thinking , and it happens to be different from
yours. I consider hacking (in that sense) an important part of my unix
education, you just have to know where the line is and not cross it.
Cheers,
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Miguel Mendez - flynn@energyhq.homeip.net
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