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Date:      Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:38:54 -0500
From:      Larry Sica <lomion@mac.com>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>, Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.ORG>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: dillon@'s commit bit: I object
Message-ID:  <BB76CFEA-38C3-11D7-9713-000393A335A2@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20030204213017.027f7d40@localhost>

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On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 11:32 PM, Brett Glass wrote:

> At 08:41 PM 2/4/2003, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
>
>> I don't agree with your statements about lack of commercialisation  is
>> the fault of a lack of advocacy.
>
> It is. Look at the activities of Bruce Perens, ESR, etc.;
> they were vital to the corporate adoption of Linux.
>
>> Linux DID get a head start - IMHO that is the leading cause.
>
> As the dot-com bust showed, the "first-mover advantage" is
> overrated. FreeBSD is STILL being hobbled by poor advocacy.
>

One must differentiate between what good and poor advocacy is.

There is also the idea that there is no such thing as bad press.  A 
marketing firm i worked for would generate press many manyt ways, some 
good, some bad.

The main thing i got though was it is all about relationships with 
outlets that can market ones product.  That is where any advocacy would 
need to be focused.

Do things to get noticed, good things, bad things.  Not bad enough to 
turn everyone off, just enough to get your name out.  That is sleazy 
tho imho, and i didn't like the idea.  But the point was, to be noticed 
you have to want to be.  Linux did, FreeBSD didn't really, not like 
Linux did at least.

I'd say it isnt really advocates freebsd but good, solid, positive 
marketing.  And there is a difference.  One is perceived as 
evangelical, one is not.

- --Larry
> --Brett Glass
>
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