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Date:      Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:42:36 -0800
From:      Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org>
To:        Tom Vilot <tom@vilot.com>
Cc:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Subject:   Re: Sun revokes FreeBSD license for Java
Message-ID:  <20050105214236.GA13785@thought.org>
In-Reply-To: <41DC476F.8030908@vilot.com>
References:  <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNGEPAEPAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> <41DC476F.8030908@vilot.com>

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On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 01:00:47PM -0700, Tom Vilot wrote:
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> >Tom,
> >
> > Have you tried any of the alternative implementations of Java?
> >Sun's isn't the only one out there.
> >
> 
> I have.
> 
> I'm sorry, I am mostly venting my frustration with Java as a language, 
> Sun as a company, and J2EE as a hugely bloated and over-architected 
> solution in dire need of a problem.
> 
	(Yup!)


	--I've been wanting to ask about kaffee [ if this is a Java
	clone ], and any other.  C was the first quantum leap, 
	OS- and application-wise.  We have many alternatives to
	the Dennis Ritchie orginal, so it would seem possible to
	follow another course for things-java.   Hopefully.

	So, without hijacking this thread *too* far, what other
	Open src projects will run "Java"-applets and so on??

	gary

	PS: This might work well in the article... .


-- 
   Gary Kline     kline@thought.org   www.thought.org     Public service Unix



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