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Date:      Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:18:26 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Joe Greco <jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
To:        jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Some recent changes to GENERIC
Message-ID:  <199607101718.MAA25879@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
In-Reply-To: <4498.837016588@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jul 10, 96 09:36:28 am

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> >    We have no mechanism  in -stable to disable devices by default. "COM3" and
> > "COM4" aren't 'standard', either. For one thing, the interrupt selections
> > for these are often switched.
> 
> Actually, I have to admit that we have - I brought over bruce's
> disabled keyword changes this morning and used it to disable the psm0
> driver.  However, when I looked at disabling sio3 it was far more
> appealing to me to simply remove it since I can't see how anyone would
> need more than two serial ports for an installation.

Jordan,

You're missing it.

I can't even think of more than one serial port for an installation - I
agree there.

However, read my lips:  NEWBIES ARE FRIGHTENED BY THE PROSPECT OF
RECOMPILING KERNELS AND OTHER GURUISH CRAP.  It needs to work cleanly
out of the box if we are to have any market appeal.  GENERIC probably 
runs on 80% of all FreeBSD boxes out there, I would bet.  Hey, I even
run GENERIC on some of my systems.  It's convenient.  It's flexible.
It's the default, too.

If you have the support for "disabled" keywords...  PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE,
I BEG YOU, DO IT THAT WAY.  You fix the "sio3" problem yet retain the
flexibility to have people just "turn it on" with boot -c, without
recompiling a kernel and potentially pooping up their system in the
process.  It is the best of both worlds, and you don't get that often!

... Joe

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