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Date:      Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:09:17 -0700
From:      Charlie Kester <corky1951@comcast.net>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Dropping maintainership of my ports
Message-ID:  <20110427060917.GB73524@comcast.net>
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTim0SBHNaUVhN0X9QvVm2Y_vKOf7EA@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <20110427014343.GJ38579@comcast.net> <BANLkTim0SBHNaUVhN0X9QvVm2Y_vKOf7EA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue 26 Apr 2011 at 22:15:58 PDT Zhihao Yuan wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Charlie Kester <corky1951@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Well, due to some serious philosophical differences re these
>> deprecation campaigns and what seems to be resistance to any further
>> discussion, I don't think I can continue working with the committers.
>> So I'm stepping down.
>>
>> If no one else wants to maintain them, please reset the maintainer of the
>> following ports to ports@FreeBSD.org:
>>
>> audio/mcplay
>> deskutils/osmo
>> deskutils/teapot
>> devel/argtable
>> devel/egypt
>> devel/gengetopt
>> devel/libXGP
>> devel/libYGP
>> finance/xinvest
>> finance/xquote
>> graphics/box
>> graphics/boxer
>> graphics/fly
>> graphics/sng
>> math/ised
>> misc/vifm
>> misc/xsw
>> multimedia/gpodder
>> multimedia/openshot
>> multimedia/photofilmstrip
>> security/beecrypt
>> security/ccrypt
>> security/nettle
>> security/ranpwd
>> sysutils/dircomp
>> sysutils/gaffitter
>> sysutils/iextract
>> sysutils/lookat
>> sysutils/moreutils
>> sysutils/moreutils-parallel
>> sysutils/ncdu
>> sysutils/rdup
>> textproc/tdhkit
>> x11/fbpanel
>
>O-o-ok... philosophical differences.
>
>audio/mcplay and the 3 multimedia-related ports, + fbpanel, have many
>users, AFAIK, and require much works. We need to someone to take them
>soon.

I don't know what you mean by "requires much works".  The only ones of
these ports that are not up-to-date are xquote and nettle. 

There is already an open PR to update nettle.  All it needs is some
attention from a committer. 

Frankly, xquote should be deprecated, as it's an old-style Motif app
that's so ugly I'll bet no one uses it.  I only took it (and the related
xinvest) because they got reinstated after I pointed out they were still
fetchable at a new location.

Everything else is in good shape.

I've been told that we shouldn't be looking for reasons to save any
unmaintained port, and I was specifically told this in response to my
efforts to identify ports that have a lot of users.  So I don't think
current policy supports the conclusion that "we need to find someone to
take them soon."

There, in a nutshell, you have the philosophical disagreement which led
to my decision to be done with ports.  

If the powers-that-be want to deprecate all of these and lighten the
load on the system and themselves, I no longer care.  I know how to
download a tarball and run through the configure/make/install routine,
so I'll still be able to run the software I need.  I thought I'd lend a
hand to those who don't have those skills, but it doesn't seem that this
contribution is welcomed or appreciated.  "There are too many ports!"

(Sorry if I'm ranting, I am still very angry about all this.)



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