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Date:      Tue, 21 Nov 1995 13:14:21 -0600 (CST)
From:      Joe Greco <jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
To:        jmb@kryten.atinc.com (Jonathan M. Bresler)
Cc:        luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, jkh@time.cdrom.com, roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 2.1.0-RELEASE now available!
Message-ID:  <199511211914.NAA06464@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.3.89.9511210922.C1055-0100000@kryten.atinc.com> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Nov 21, 95 10:07:26 am

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> On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> 
> > While I am not willing to maintain mailing lists at the moment, I
> > can I can check here if people agrees to allocate resources (disk)
> > for an FTP server. Apart from computing resources, how much disk
> > space do you think we need to provide for this ?
> 
> 	disk space requirements are minimal, but for /var/spool/mqueue.   
> disk required for /var/spool/mqueue will vary by number of subscribers 
> and quanitity of mail.   here are the numbers for freefall.freebsd.org.
> 
> 	majordomo binaries, scripts         3.1 MB
> 	lists, configs, etc                 1.5 MB
> 	bulk_mailer, binaries, source       0.1 MB
> 	peter's multi-queue                 0.2 MB
> 	mail queues                         3.6 MB
>                                            -------
>                                             8.5 MB

I've always been willing to (and actually intended to) set up a local lists
exploder here at sol.net.  Originally, I had intended for it to be a tool
for local use, but again, this is a great example of Yet Another Something 
we out here in the Real World can do on a larger scale to make Freefall's 
life easier.

My secondary mail server, mail2.sol.net, is a 486DX/33 with 32MB of RAM and
a reasonably large amount of disk.  It sits there most of the time bored out
of its mind, spinning its disk.

> df -k
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
[...]
/dev/sd0s1g     98479    13508    77092    15%    /var
/dev/sd0s1h    108719       30    99991     0%    /var/spool

This is a sad waste of a machine, but I believe in redundancy, so the
secondary server sits there and also runs X, amanda, ftp.freebsd.sol.net, 
my SUP archive, kerberos service, and all sorts of stuff - AND IS STILL
90% IDLE ON AVERAGE  :-)

(Gawd I just love FreeBSD!!!!)

Maybe if we had several list exploders here in the continental US (Eastern,
Southern, Midwestern, West Coast?) we could take some load off of freefall.
If there is any such interest, I have the resources and will to set up
something here to serve the Midwest.

Aside:  ftp.freebsd.sol.net isn't really getting pounded too hard but 
people ARE using it....

> w
 1:10PM  up 1 day, 21:51, 2 users, load averages: 0.09, 0.07, 0.02
 [...]
> /usr/local/bin/ftpwho
Service class local: 
   -   0 users ( 10 maximum)

Service class remote: 
   [...]
   -   2 users ( 10 maximum)

... Joe

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Joe Greco - Systems Administrator			      jgreco@ns.sol.net
Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI			   414/342-4847



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